Posted on Oct 21, 2014
"Muslims Demand Army Change Its Dress Code To Include Turbans And Beards"
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What do you think about this? I will post my opinion after we rack up a few from some other members.
Posted 11 y ago
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These politically correct regulations undermine the application to all the military. As you make this exception, you open it up to more and more exceptions. The object of military appearance and uniform regulations is to ensure that all conform to a common standard.
If you know what the regulations were then you are interfering with military discipline, order, or readiness. Why should I or anyone else comply if others don't have to? By way of example for exceptions, if I feel it offends my beliefs whether they are religious or not, i.e. LGBT, Wicca or atheist or agnostic or some 'wacko' religious sect, does this mean it's OK? Who (at what level) decides whether the practices don’t interfere with “military discipline, order, or readiness”?
I firmly believe the military is not the place for such type of personal expressions and individualism where teamwork is most important. Nor is it a place for social re-engineering!
Maybe they should join the Peace Corps, Service Corps or some NGO if they wish to serve the nation, but please keep this crapola out of the military.
If you know what the regulations were then you are interfering with military discipline, order, or readiness. Why should I or anyone else comply if others don't have to? By way of example for exceptions, if I feel it offends my beliefs whether they are religious or not, i.e. LGBT, Wicca or atheist or agnostic or some 'wacko' religious sect, does this mean it's OK? Who (at what level) decides whether the practices don’t interfere with “military discipline, order, or readiness”?
I firmly believe the military is not the place for such type of personal expressions and individualism where teamwork is most important. Nor is it a place for social re-engineering!
Maybe they should join the Peace Corps, Service Corps or some NGO if they wish to serve the nation, but please keep this crapola out of the military.
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OMG I truly hope this is not even a consideration. No we don't change the dress code for any group of people, if you want to serve great we are glad to have you brothers and sisters but it's under the UCMJ
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We are to respect each others religion but we are also to respect our standards. It's the same as telling a African American they can't wear dreads in the military. This is no different to me. Our uniformity is what it is.....don't like it, find a new profession.
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This is stupid I believe in freedom of religion but all you hear now days is that Muslims are demanding this or that. What the hell makes them think that there religion gives them the right to change traditions of the service. If you don't like the uniform dont join. Just because they are Muslim does not give them rights to demand anything. If you start giving in to certain groups there will be no end to it, everyone will think they have the right to demand silly shit. This is the armed forces's if you want to serve your country shut up and do what needs to be done, what you wear is what they have determined to be best for the service.
Shut up and serve your country with Pride
Shut up and serve your country with Pride
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Cpl Christopher Bishop
Agreed. What exactly does "they are demanding" even mean here? It implies that there is some consequence to the military not giving in. So again I say: OR WHAT?
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This is absolutely ridiculous! Yet not surprising. I would not put this past our idiotic "leadership" to accommodate. They may as well trade in our tanks for camels and accept and adapt their sharia law! What a crock! Fist off, this AMERICA! Not the middle east. If they want to wear their turbans and full beards, then they should go back to their country of origin and join their military.
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"Muslims Demand that the US Army Change Its Dress Code To Include Turbans And Beards"
HAHAHAHA....WOW!!! WTF !!!! ....What a fucking Joke.
HAHAHAHA....WOW!!! WTF !!!! ....What a fucking Joke.
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I did not know we were in isreal or afghanistan or iraq wy dont we just change all members of the united states armed forces to muslims. straight up bullshit. I remember having to get a no shave chit while in the core. I guess now ill just change my religion and wont have to worry about a chit
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SGT (Join to see)
Calm down. That link isn't even a real article. The man in the picture is a Sikh. It's just ignorant fear-mongering. Nobody's taking your Bible away from you.
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I find this funny, considering that a turban being religious Muslim headgear is a misconception in our country and the fact that the Captain in the picture is actually a SIKH, whose faith mandates that he wear a turban and not cut any hair on his body, to include his beard. Also, combine that with the fact that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of Muslim soldiers in the Army that are following grooming standards since the Islamic faith doesn't make it obligatory to have beards. Rather, it is the tradition of Muhammad (PBUH) and his Companions. Next time, please check your sources, sir. That page you posted is nothing but a hoax, and is just ignorant.
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Interesting and overall good conversations and dialogue. SGM Johnson is correct. Bottom line for the Army: this exception is not new. AR 600-20, AR 165-1, and AR/DA PAM 670-1 have allowed religious exemption for regarding uniform wear and standards. The latest guidelines from DoD match what has already been followed in the US Army. In fact, parts were almost word-for-word from the aforementioned AR/PAM. DoD did add some clarification to help the Commanders and Chaplains out. The source article is not a reliable media source. Just because the Council of Islamic-American Relations and the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund provided comments does not make this a "Muslim demand." The clarification in what was already an Army policy (I remember getting briefed on it at Basic Training in 1992) was welcomed by Orthodox Christians and Jewish groups as well.
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I recall that the US military is an all "VOLUNTEER" force. Once a citizen or legal applicant has "AGREED" to "VOLUNTEER" for US Military service there is a signed contract that states the the applicant will abide by and follow all regulations, orders, bullitens, notes and codes of conduct. I am not overly familiar with the Muslim faith or culture bu tI am pretty sure it is VERY male dominate. If this is approved the next step is women and homosexuals will be NOT allowed to sesrve. As a member of the Armed forces for the past 21 years I am OUTRAGED that this is even being thought of. Consider that a turbin will not allow for proper military head ware. A beard will not allow proper seal of a gas mask. Now what?
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