Posted on Oct 21, 2014
CW2 Jonathan Kantor
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What do you think about this? I will post my opinion after we rack up a few from some other members.
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PVT Jeff Clark
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No Exceptions allowed !!!! Personally I believe Females should be required to have their hair cut the same as Males so I am into the if you join the Military you are required to accept all regulations and not Bitch about them after agreeing to do so.
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SFC Chrishalodebany J.
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NO, NO, NO, NO. in more ways than 1. No, the Army should NOT change its policy to allow Turbans and Beard. Soldiers must be able identify their counterparts quickly and a clean face and short hair is the ONLY policy for the Army. Also, it is clean!
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the purpose of having a clean shaven face and a low haircut is to get a good seal on a gas mas and other protective gear for your head. to protect their life it should be common sense to stay shaven and have a low haircut. its easier to find ticks, sand fleas and other critters that may get into your hair while you are in the field. easier to treat wounds and it's much cooler in hot environments. I personally would say that they are non deployable and send them home
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PVT Jeff Clark
PVT Jeff Clark
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with a Less than Honorable Discharge for refusing to conform
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Matthew Torrelli
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The Army has had clean shaven US SOLDIERS since way before wwI and here were are changing our regulations for a couple Muslims that wanted to join the U.S. ARMY. Are standards have stood this long if they can't do as the rest send packing. We don't change for them they change for use
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SFC Chemical Biological Radiological and Nuclear Operations Specialist
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I understand people of different races, cultures, etc have their own views and traditions, but come on. You willingly joined the military and, as such, you knew that there were certain rights and freedoms you had to give up. I would love to have a beer in Afghanistan after a patrol or a shift, but I cannot. Why? The Army said I can't.

Grow up.
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Capt Chief Of Innovation
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Clearly this discussion is sensitive in nature. We are talking about Muslims. I, personally don't see an issue with this. If they are American, they have raised their right hand to protect the constitution just like I did, then why not allow them to have some of their religious freedoms brought into our service. I would say that if this is allowed, then they would have to wear an appropriate, DoD approved headgear, plus DoD approved length with the beard. I think the beard discussion needs to take place too. Our reasoning for not having beards is based on Soviet Era legislation, due to chemical threats. When is the last time something like that took place against our service members. Especially on the homeland. I think if you are in your sacred country, beards should be worn to a DoD standard length. When it comes to certain areas for deployed locations that may or may not have a chemical threat, then require that service members be shaven. Our intel tells us these areas, why not use it to relax on outdated, soviet era rules. I think as pioneers in this era of service in our country, we need to be able to show that we still have strength and compassion for our traditions, while adopting new ones because our freedoms that we have written give us that capacity, that no other country or government allows.
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Well, its a topic about change. Generally these topics will have those that agree and many that will disagree. Anything that demands change in culture will not be taken lightly. I recognize this topic is a big shift for others.

I am an advocate for love thy neighbor. Also, all Americans are created equal. I can't put this on our president. This is a people's choice. An American choice, why do we need to rely on the president for such a small topic. He has many other larger decisions that need to be made. Isn't this a matter of trying to resolve this at the lowest level? I would think so.

It may look different to us to see that headgear, but I wouldn't mind. It would encourage a lot of things. People to learn more about them, respect for their decisions, maybe even a self reflection.
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MSgt Ken Brown
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I would have told the Muslims to go to hell. If they want to join an army and wear their turbans then go back to the Middle East...I'm sure they'd be glad to have you. Who they hell are they to demand anything from this country? We don't owe them a damn thing.
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SSG David Kaelin
SSG David Kaelin
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Sikhs wear turbans. They're not Muslims. Many Christians wear turbans as well as do Buddhists and Hindus.

Too many people make instant judgments from a point of ignorance.
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1SG Joseph Wolf
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Muslims don't wear turbans.
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LCpl James Robertson
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Have DOD lost its minds, when you approve of a uniform stick to it, every nationality have something they may won't to wear, don't get into making statements for a particular group of people, transgender may want to wear a dress do you let them, what if I'm Catholic, and want to wear a robe, do you let them. What about Scots and want to wear a kilt, we all have heritages, do we allow all Armed Forces to wear there uniform of there choice.
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MGySgt Rich Zahn
MGySgt Rich Zahn
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They maybe being force fed, still ain't rite.. Make them their own regiment and send em to fight ISIS..
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SP6 Frank Stroupe
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Sir, you are an idiot. Captain Rattan, the Sikh in the photo, was granted an exemption in 2009, along with a CW2, when they were recalled from inactive reserve and told that they would have to shave.

DA policy for the past five years is that exemptions will be considered on a case-by-case basis. I know of one other Sikh, a SP4, that has been given an exemption. There could be more.

Your stupid post is going viral among the ignorant. You should get your facts straight before talking out of your ass.
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SSgt Lonnie Montgomery
SSgt Lonnie Montgomery
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SP6 your facts may or may not be accurate. Your opinion is just that your opinion. But after reading your first couple of comments you lost any respect for what you were trying to say. The very thing you were trying to lay out there for others to hear got lost in your contempt for this Captain.

I not a PC type person and my comment is not meant in that way. While I respect your right to voice your opinion I totally object to the disrespect you are showing to another member who like you put on our nation’s military uniform.
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