Posted on Oct 21, 2014
"Muslims Demand Army Change Its Dress Code To Include Turbans And Beards"
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What do you think about this? I will post my opinion after we rack up a few from some other members.
Posted 11 y ago
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Ok, so men have to be clean shaven/or allowed a very neatly kept mustache, but for religious reasons, these guys want full on beards? Do they understand why beards are not permitted?! I also don't see how a turban is going to work out for these guys in the field: what about cranial protection? Also, a Muslim soldier in the US Army is going to stick out like a sore thumb and likely targeted. I say nay.
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COL (Join to see)
I'm pretty sure all Americans would be targeted in that case. Beard probably isn't gonna matter
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SGT (Join to see)
Sir, the beard doesn't allow for a seal with a gas mask. I, personally, would be after someone I consider a traitor, rather than my enemy. Just a thought.
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SGM Robin Johnson
The Soldiers pictured are Sikh, they have been in the Army for several years without issue, including wearing protective equipment. They have a more tightly wrapped turban that can be worn when it won't be seen under a helmet.
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SGM Robin Johnson
You are replying to a post that is so misleading as to be false. No religious group 'demanded' anything. No regulations were changed. The DOD published a clarification of expectations about religious accommodations in January 2014. The Army already met those standard. The Soldiers pictured are not Muslim, they are Sikh and have been serving for several years without any issues, including wearing protective gear. Time to learn the regulations, policies, and procedures regarding uniforms and religious accommodations well enough to notice this, especially since they have been basically unchanged for years. You can check this out on Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/armyturban.asp
Did Muslims demand the U.S. Army change its dress code to allow turbans and beards?
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SSgt (Join to see)
I feel its is a bad idea in general. The turban takes too long to don and beards interfere with a seal on a gas mask. Impractical for military operations.
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Im done... I love the military service but I have seen a decline in the short time I have been in.
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SGM Robin Johnson
You are replying to a post that is so misleading as to be false. No religious group 'demanded' anything. No regulations were changed. The DOD published a clarification of expectations about religious accommodations in January 2014. The Army already met those standard. The Soldiers pictured are not Muslim, they are Sikh and have been serving for several years without any issues, including wearing protective gear. The fact that you didn't know the regulations, policies, and procedures regarding uniforms and religious accommodations well enough to notice this, even though they have been basically unchanged for years, is troubling. Even the most junior Soldier could have checked this out on Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/armyturban.asp
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I came to to blog /web site by accident and will come to it again because of the ignorance it fosters. The Officers andEnlisted respondingnto this article just proves how ignoran and non culturally aware some of our Servicemen can be. First of all the person pictured is not a Muslim. He is Sihk whichnis a Hindi religious sect. In case you dont know what Hindi is , it is a religion that originates in India and has nothing to do with Islam. These people have served honorably is armys over the world particularly in the UK and US . It wasnt until the 1980s that the Army banned the wearing of turbans for these men so this is nothing ne, Its just a revamp of a previously existing policy. Is it right . I'm the Chief of staff of the Army..Deal with it!!!
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LTC (Join to see)
What a thoughtful and well crafted response, truly one of the great minds of his generation.
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Screw them, either conform to the regulations or get out, it as simple as that. They came to this country to live because their way of life sucks in their country, then they want to drag their beliefs and customs along with them to change our way of life. We sure as hell didn't seek them out to live here. Just ignore their crap and put them to work or in the stockade.
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SGM Robin Johnson
The Soldiers pictured were born and raised in this country. They joined the military for the same reasons the rest of us did (and with a better skill set than many of us.) Time to check your prejudices, Chief. Americans include ALL religious groups, and they are born and raised here. So when you tell them to 'go home' you may be sending them right next door. Also, you are replying to a post that is so misleading as to be false. No religious group 'demanded' anything. No regulations were changed. The DOD published a clarification of expectations about religious accommodations in January 2014. The Army already met those standard. The Soldiers pictured are not Muslim, they are Sikh and have been serving for several years without any issues, including wearing protective gear. The fact that so many senior NCOs and officers didn't know the regulations, policies, and procedures regarding uniforms and religious accommodations well enough to notice this, even though they have been basically unchanged for years, is troubling. Even the most junior Soldier could have checked this out on Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/armyturban.asp
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