Posted on Sep 24, 2020
My chain of command just announced that they're going to inspect on and off-post housing. What are they allow to inspect?
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So my question is can they order me open up my kid's room if my son and daughter are in their rooms, or if my dogs are in one of the rooms behind a closed door because of not being friendly to strangers can they order me to open. I apologize for such a naive question, I just have never experienced this before. Is there anything I can reference about off post house inspection by the chain of command.
Posted 5 y ago
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First, they have the authority to inspect your living conditions. My wife and I did over forty years ago. It's best when done by invitation. Otherwise, it's done as a health and wealthfare inspection. We helped a lot of our soldiers through these as the landlords didn't like hearing from me. Best of luck to you and your chain ofcommand!
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They are authorized to visit off base in the intrest of good order and discipline. Think of it the same way as a"welfare" check. You need to understand that you're procuring off base housing with funds that you're receiving to do such. Whilst the concept of this seems off, you're not exempt from the UCMJ off post. Sorry Charlie, this is within the scope of your commands authority.
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It does seem like an intrusion of off-post personnel's privacy. But if you are lower enlisted, it might be necessary. Joe can be living foul and this is all in an effort to ensure good order.
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Landlords inspect their property all the time in the civilian world. If you don't own the place then it is subject to inspection.
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LTC Eugene Chu
Issue is that landlords own the property. If it is off post, military chain of command does not have authority.
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If you invite them in, ask if the want a cup of coffee and a piece of cake. sit them down and talk a bit. They are not allowed to roam the house without your permission. No warrant from the chain of command and no reason for it means no they can not just come in for a causual inspection..
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When you say Off Post Housing, can you Clarify? are you Talking about Government Own Off base Housing ? or are you Talking about your own Private Residence, that you own or Rent?
if you are Talking about Government Own Housing, then yes your Command can Inspect your off base Housing as Long as they Give you at Least 48 hour Notice.
if it is your own Privately Owned Home or Apartment, then no they have no Right to enter your Home, without your Permission.
if you are Talking about Government Own Housing, then yes your Command can Inspect your off base Housing as Long as they Give you at Least 48 hour Notice.
if it is your own Privately Owned Home or Apartment, then no they have no Right to enter your Home, without your Permission.
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This is has been a subject of conversation since I first got stripes in 1993; when I was a 1SG, we had a very thorough Platoon Sergent who wanted to conduct an H&W inspection on an off-post residence (rental home) as the landlord had seen that the soldier's home was dirty (i.e. piles of trash within the residence, moldy and rotten food in the refrigerator, piles of dirty laundry, etc.) and was concerned about his home and the family's well-being. Since I was all for this idea, I really didn't know if we could legally enter (we had the landlord's permission). So, I referred the Platoon Sergeant to the housing office and JAG for legal clarification. I am sure that things have changed since that day; however, I would advise you the same way, go see the housing office and JAG.
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SPC Daniel Rankin
Now days even if a person is renting, once you start to pay the rent, the owner has no say so about who can enter into the house. So still needs a sheriff or town officer to accompany the military with a warrant to the house. And a Civilian judge needs to sign off on it.
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Ok , I read all the response and One thing was never said or asked .Is there a reason like there is equipment missing from the unit and they are doing a wide spread inspection to find out who .This is the wrong way to do that but you can lose your off post living . So just how much hard ball you want to play? Not letting them in could mean they will look at you as guilty .The command know they can't do it by force but , They may have been backed into a corner . So if to many people say no then they could take all the right of living off post for everyone is gone . Then the per presser starts .PS off post living is a privilege not a right .This could turn bad fast .So this is on you and just how far you want to keep them out .It many be a shit sandwich and everybody
may have to take a bite . Good luck
may have to take a bite . Good luck
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SSG Jim Schimon
Heck My unit didn't let any one off post living unless you were a E-7 or higher .If you had a family they could live off post but you still had a bed on post with your equipment .They even made some towns off limit .Even on your off time . You were there patch you are theres .
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SSG Dennis Mendoza
That's not going to happen now a days things have changed so much, and they barely can house junior enlisted soldiers on this installation and I just had an E5 wait over a month for housing which to some doesn't seem bad but when housing tells them 4 different times, they'll have the house ready and kept changing dates and even the same day of signing for the house they still didnt have the house ready to be signed
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SSG Jim Schimon
Keeping the solders living together I a way to build the team . //You are still the armys 24/7. A simple fact is If you get hurt On your so called off time . The Army will cover you and if long term damage happens even on your off time You will be able to get Disability .Which means They can tell you were you live At any time . No matter what you are the commanders resousblilty at all times .It may be a kinder army now but You are there as they see fit .
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I'd be moving out any adverse posters, stickers, T shirts, and other politically incorrect paraphernalia etc especially if this is the first time in a long time the command has specified such an inspection. What you wouldn't bring on base shouldn't be in the home for an inspection. The justification is what others here are quoting and those are valid.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
Simpler tell them they can expect when they bring a search order signed by a judge with jurisdiction.
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