Posted on Jun 1, 2015
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I deployed to Afghanistan in 2012 with Temporary Change of Station (TCS) orders that said my tour would be no longer than 270 days (about 9 months). My tour ended up being 8 months and 1 day, as my unit redeployed a few weeks early. The unit I deployed with awarded me the Overseas Service Ribbon (OSR) for having completed a tour. I arrived at my current unit a few months ago, and prior to my recent appearance at the promotion board, S1 reviewed my records and removed the OSR from my ERB, stating that I didn't serve overseas long enough to qualify for the OSR. My Platoon Sergeant is the one who made me aware of S1's decision to remove my OSR, and he hasn't disagreed with S1's decision or made any moves to investigate the situation, so I did the research on my own.

AR 600-8-22 says that the OSR is awarded to Soldiers who are credited with a normal overseas tour completion according to AR 614-30. AR 614-30 says that a Soldier has completed a tour if he serves to within 60 days of the prescribed tour. I was deployed to within 21 days of my prescribed tour, and my early return wasn't under my control or by my request; my whole unit redeployed a few weeks early. According to my research, I should be able to keep my OSR.

I'm going to print my TCS deployment orders and take them to S1 to show that my prescribed tour was only 9 months, but beyond that, I haven't decided what to do. Has anyone else been in this situation, or can anyone explain where I went wrong in my evaluation? What would you do in my situation?
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SGT Edwin Claudio
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I find this a crock of poop. You go overseas, do what you do and then they tell you you don't qualify for an award for going overseas. I have to remind myself that common sense is not a military term.
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SFC Instructor/Writer
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Normal overseas ribbon is different from Overseas service bar. The overseas duty is anywhere outside the continental US for 6 months or more for a normal overseas duty, such as Alaska, Hawaii, Germany, etc. If your deployed to a combat zone, you are only authorized to wear Overseas service bar, sewed on your right sleeve. This can be calculated and added up over time for multiple deployments to see how many oversea service bars you are authorized to wear.
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SFC Instructor/Writer
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"Overseas tour completion is determined by AR 614-30. If a Soldier is credited with a normal overseas tour completion, then the Soldier may be awarded the OSR. Tours lengths for Iraq and Afghanistan have NOT been established"
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TSgt Gerry Keffer
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When I was active duty Air Force I served in Alaska from 1980-1987 and although I was in the ‘continental k U.S. I was not in the ‘contiguous’ lower 48 states, they would always say we were ‘overseas BUT’ and therefore weren’t authorized or issued any overseas ribbons...quite the bummer.
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MSG John Duchesneau
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I don't know about the Air Force but in the Army overseas is anything outside of the Continental US.
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Without digging out all of the references I had to use - and this is somewhat convoluted - the short answer is your S-1 is correct and you should not have been credited with a short tour.
Afghanistan has a "non-standard" tour length (so does Iraq), and as such a short tour is defined as 9 months consecutively served, or 11 months non-consecutive. The latter is more for air crews, but might apply to other logistics personnel who find themselves in and out of the country.
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Thanks, 1SG!
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8 months and 15 days is the magic number for the ribbon. 3 our of my 6 deployments I did not qualify being just shy of that number. SFC P
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CPL Timothy Dixon
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Things have changed since 1972 Nam, To all you men please always take care. We have got your back. Rest easy
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CPL Timothy Dixon
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Take care
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SGM Matthew Quick
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It appears you do not qualify...

Q3: How long do I have to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan to be awarded the OSR?

A3: IAW AR 614-30, Soldiers who serve a minimum of 11 cumulative months (within a 24 month period) or 9 continuous months in a TCS/TDY status may receive overseas tour credit for a completed short tour.

https://www.hrc.army.mil/TAGD/Overseas%20Service%20Ribbon%20OSR
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SSG Rick Burton
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I know that. I’m sorry I didn’t have time to type all that out at the moment I wrote IG, because of all the people who said there was no chance it was over and done.
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MSG Chief Instructor
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Ok. Thanks for the clarification.
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SFC Michael Allday
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SSGBURTON, If you don't have time to type all your information that you want read then don't just type what you put and leave it. Its irresponsible and leaves you open for criticism. Think of your actions before you go forward.
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Agreed - I was in the same boat simply by our flights coming back being more efficient than planned. I think it would be worthwhile to contact your previous S1 to see if there was any paperwork submitted as an exemption to policy. Typically if the tour is ended early you get credited for its completion.
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