Posted on Nov 3, 2022
My rater rated me 1 of 2 and exceeds standards on my NCOER. However, my senior is giving me only qualified. Does this make sense?
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I reviewed my NCOER and noticed that something didn't seem right. My rater gave me a rating of 1 of 2 SSG. When I looked at my senior rater comments and overall rating it stated that I was top 50% of the 7 NCOs that he senior rates promote with peers and send to SLC when eligible. He gave me rating of qualified. However, the senior rater has been my senior rater for 3 1/2 months, never received an initial counseling or performance measure counselings, their doing an annual NCOER, but I didn't report to the duty station until late November of 2021 and to the company until middle of February
2022 they have my initial counseling dated a month prior to me arriving to my duty station and all the other counseling dates on the NCOER I never received counseling on those dates. I talked to my 1SG about this and he said he will talk to my senior rater about this. Is there anything I could talk to legal about this?
2022 they have my initial counseling dated a month prior to me arriving to my duty station and all the other counseling dates on the NCOER I never received counseling on those dates. I talked to my 1SG about this and he said he will talk to my senior rater about this. Is there anything I could talk to legal about this?
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I think you should go back and read over the Evaluation regulation before you try going to legal and IG. You're probably receiving an annual eval because it's been a year since your last one. Assuming you are a DS, that time is probably unrated school time for the DS course. Your Senior Rater isn't required to counsel you.
I'm sure wherever you came from you were considered a top performer among your peers. You are now in a pool of peers who were all the very top performers, and that is who you are being rated against. Just doing your job well equals being Qualified - everyone is doing their job well, that's what the expectation is for Drill Sergeants. You will want to read up on Senior Rater profiles to understand how their rating of you also affects the value of their rating of the other members of their pool.
I'm sure wherever you came from you were considered a top performer among your peers. You are now in a pool of peers who were all the very top performers, and that is who you are being rated against. Just doing your job well equals being Qualified - everyone is doing their job well, that's what the expectation is for Drill Sergeants. You will want to read up on Senior Rater profiles to understand how their rating of you also affects the value of their rating of the other members of their pool.
As advised read the regulations associated with the NCOER, you will be surprised at what you learn. There is no legal matter here. I believe all your questions will be answered, save one, instead of being frustrated, why not ask your COC how you can do better.
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IAW AR 623-3 if I never received initial or quarterly counselings, they must explain why. This is why I'm challenging my rating, because these are false dates, my rater wasn't rating me until February 2022 and my senior rater didn't begin rating me until June 2022. How can someone rate and entire years worth, when they weren't part of the unit until recently? From my understanding falsifying on a government document is absolutely wrong.
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SSG Zachary Kelly That is exactly what I am eluding to. Empower yourself with the knowledge and you will be surprised what is possible. If your unit leadership has violated policy and regulation and you have the facts to back it then you should escalate.
You could always challenge it but seldom does that work unless you have something showing that you are being targeted. He's evaluating you on your performance against other ncos that you may not necessarily see. Just as an example, if a person performs well in a low functioning unit he may be rated best but we're compared to a high-functioning unit he may be rated below their average performer. Usually the only way you could justify that you have been evaluated unfairly is if you have performance measures or achievements that demonstrate your worth of the position.
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Legal handles laws and UCMJ, NCOERs are an administrative process. While JAG loves to give their advice, they have zero authority over administrative processes such as Bars, GOMORS, QMP, or evals. If you feel that your rater isn't following policy you can go to IG. IG will tell your rater that they have to add the comments about why you weren't counseled. That's it. In the end, the evaluation board doesn't care about your comments, they care about your assignment history first and your evals second. A person in a broadening assignment, especially a demanding one like Drill, who is qualified is going to be rated higher than someone who's highly qualified in a normal position.