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PUT HIM IN A SHELL SHOCKED STATE LIKE THE MARINE CORPS DOES...................................
HE ISNT SCREAMED AT OR HIT OR HARASSED HE IS A GENTLER KINDER KIND OF PERSON WHO KNOWS NO COLLECTIVE OR SELF DISCIPLINE................SO WHEN HE SEE'S AN N.C.O HE THINKS HE'S AS GOOD AS HIM AND BETTER THAN HIS PEERS..........ARMY START KICKIN ASS TAKING NAMES AND FORGETTING POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.............................
1. This topic, to me, is a dead horse and has been over-beaten and over-kicked for years. (I used to be on AKO forums and it came up ALL. THE. TIME. Just saying.) Honestly, each older generation likes to blame the newer one for being "softer/weaker" and loves to reminisce about the "good ole days." The same thing happens in the civilian sector.
2. Just like with personal relationships, in professional relationships, people will only do what you allow them to. Thus, if Soldiers are disrespecting their leadership, it is because it is being/has been tolerated by someone, somewhere. Many will blame this on the fact that "smoking" Soldiers is no longer acceptable, and perhaps in some cases, it is. I personally blame it on leaders that either don't care enough, or are too lazy, or not creative enough, to come up with appropriate and effective corrective training. Screaming at a PVT to "push until I'm tired" is easy and doesn't take a whole lot of thought or effort. It also isn't a guaranteed "fix" for every situation...each Soldier is different and as leaders we have to be creative and flexible enough to adjust fire in our leadership styles. Also, we have to be able to think outside the box enough to know that many times, bad behavior is a sign that something is wrong in the Soldier's personal life. We must be able to set aside our frustration long enough to take a time-out, sit down and ask the Soldier, "what's going on with you? This behavior is not like you..." Again, each Soldier and situation is different, so adjust accordingly.
Escallation of force.
On the spot correction
corrective training
counseling
higher counseling
Co grade Art. 15
FG Art. 15
It's a long process but if some people are too thick headed to learn, then there are ways of removing them from service without them ever doing anything drastic. It falls under patterns of misconduct but you've got to get a solid paper trail to show that every effort was made to retrain the individual.
The current generation of NCO's are usually around my age group with different upbringings. Apathy and a rude demeanor is just becoming the norm among the populous. My buddies always tell me how shitty their troops are and how too can't fathom how kids could get even more out of control. You can place blame on their upbringing, their influences, or both. Either way, even if the next generation was to become polar opposites in demeanor, my generation will condescend them for being "weenys" for showing empathy, compassion, and respecting their elders and peers. The only option is to lead by example. NCO's aren't supposed to keep a boot in the ass of all the lower ranks; the E-4's are supposed to keep order among the E-3's and so on and so forth. It's the duty of the E-4 nowadays to take the brunt of a verbal assault and knife hand from the NCO's. In return, you should accept the responsibility for the ineptitude of your peers and if you're not a jackass or a shit bag; the lower ranks will take notice that you man up and take your lashings in stride; while remaining composed, disciplined, and rife with integrity. And those capable of thinking critically will follow the leader. The shit bags will probably get promoted meritoriously for something they didn't do, but....fuck 'em haha.
hmmmm,
This comes up quite often. So i have a question for you SPC, what do you do to encourage your peers to act appropriately?
As an NCO i do encounter those soldiers who are, for a lack of a better word, a hassle to deal with. However, saying that, those i've trained and earned respect with (the good respect) often jump into the misunderstood soldier before i even need to. Could i go back to the pre 9/11 way of thinking and start "corrective training" and making life awfully painful for everybody. Sure, but the army now teaches critical thinking and developing different ways to address issues. Maybe you could look at these soldiers as a leadership challenge for when you become part of the backbone.
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