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Can anyone in the military get ptsd? I heard there was non-combat ptsd and combat ptsd.
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 14
PTSD is not a military only related mental health issue. Any trauma, regardless of time, place, or situation can cause it.
Combat, Rape, death, violence, abuse, accidents, injury, shock, surprise, bullying... We all here the rumor of the guy that contracted it when the Drill Sergeant yelled at him and we laugh... except based on the life he lived and coping skills he has (or doesn't), this incident may very well have caused PTSD... So, I prefer to look at it as "There is PTSD." The origin doesn't matter, there is a mind/soul that still needs to be healed.
Combat, Rape, death, violence, abuse, accidents, injury, shock, surprise, bullying... We all here the rumor of the guy that contracted it when the Drill Sergeant yelled at him and we laugh... except based on the life he lived and coping skills he has (or doesn't), this incident may very well have caused PTSD... So, I prefer to look at it as "There is PTSD." The origin doesn't matter, there is a mind/soul that still needs to be healed.
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CW2 Joseph Evans
MSG (Join to see) - The time of the diagnosis is irrelevant in my opinion, just the source of the PTSD. Combat may have been something the sufferer experienced, but it may not actually be related to the source. There are men and women who experienced combat and firefights, but the trauma they suffered was due to rape by a fellow service member. They were diagnosed after, but the actual source is concealed.
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CPT Kalen Arreola
There is a great network of orgs for people who need to connect with the outdoors and it helps with dealing with all that stuff! Check out http://www.r4alliance.org and see if it is helpful for anyone dealing with this.
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Sgt Peter Passaretti
So that young troop that contracted PTSD when the Drill Sergeant yelled at him... he has completed basic and combat training successfully, assigned a duty station - gets there and cannot cope any longer. What happens to him, he is 11 months into a 5 year enlistment?
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CW2 Joseph Evans
Sgt Peter Passaretti - Any of a dozen possible things, depending on his command. Most of which won't actually help him a whole lot.
9 months after the fact, it is a little late to get a failure to adapt, which is probably one of the least impactful separation statements. Medical, non-combat, depending on the other symptoms he suffers from, he could end up with article 15s or even a court martial if his coping mechanisms are bad enough...
It sucks, but the troop, at that point, if he can't be taught resiliency and recover from the incident, he's probably screwed... for life...
9 months after the fact, it is a little late to get a failure to adapt, which is probably one of the least impactful separation statements. Medical, non-combat, depending on the other symptoms he suffers from, he could end up with article 15s or even a court martial if his coping mechanisms are bad enough...
It sucks, but the troop, at that point, if he can't be taught resiliency and recover from the incident, he's probably screwed... for life...
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Yes there is a non combat PTSD the condition isn't synonymous with Military service. for example my ex wife went from the Air Force to the Army and was raped during a training exercise she has PTSD and has never seen combat. my wife lost a child to drowning in a lake on the 4th of July and she has PTSD. it is caused by severe Trauma of any sort. hence Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
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The problem is when you reach out to the VA. There is such a thing as PTSD outside of combat. Of course we all know that but when you approach the VA about it, they do all they can to prevent putting those initials on-paper. I have been labeled as having an adjustment disorder following a PTSD episode. The other problem is that when I was in, any hint of mental problem and you were gone. Your career was over. So, when you look at claiming disability, of course you did not seek treatment for the precipitating event. Also how do you document experiences like being on duty at the hospital and dealing with deaths over the years. Yes, they will take their toll on you. Walking into a room and seeing somebody with their brains scattered on the wall behind the chair they sat in is just a little traumatizing. That's just an example. How do you begin to document that stuff? So yeah, non-combat PTSD does exist, but how do you convince the VA that you were exposed to events if they were a normal part of your duties or you were afraid to seek help at the time.
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SPC Paul Davis
Need some advice. I'm service connected for TBI and still have alot of issues with sleep, mood, and nightmares of my crash. how do i get the va. mhc to evaluate me for PTSD. I've asked several times but just get brushed away since I wasn't deployed into combat zone. I've been told by my other docs at va that I have symptoms. Whats my options. Thanks
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LT David Swithers
contact your local Disabled American Veterans office: https://www.dav.org/veterans/find-your-local-office/
DAV Local Offices - Veterans Service Officers - NSOs - DAV.org
All services provided by DAV NSOs are free of charge. Your Local DAV National Service Officer (NSO) will help you file a claim. - DAV.org
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As a therapist with over 3500 hrs in the chair , the easy answer is yes. I've dealt with firemen, police, rapes, attempted murders, natural disasters, car wrecks, house fires, explosions, and all kinds of out her failures and losses which set up flashbacks. Anything that overwhelms a persons resiliency can haunt them as PTSD.
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Previous comments in this thread state the facts very well. The issue comes when combat-related PTS cases come upon individuals being treated for other-than-combat-related PTS cases. Sometimes the combat-related individuals can't see beyond their own pain to gain understanding and compassion of others with PTS. When one is in pain - and PTS can be thought of as a form of pain internalized (or at least it is in my case) - the one in pain does NOT think clearly.
PTS has been a part of the human experience for eons - every type of literature that discusses loss, anguish, combat, love, hate, anger and fear describe one form of PTS or another. The difference in today's mental health systems is that we seem to have a better grasp on what to do and what not to do for those suffering. Though I will be honest and say there are sometimes I'm not so sure about some of what I'm hearing second-hand on treatment and analysis for PTS. However, we are far ahead in our handling of PTS than when compared to our great-grandfathers and their great-grandfathers....
Maybe some day we will be able to manage PTS before it becomes such an issue .......
PTS has been a part of the human experience for eons - every type of literature that discusses loss, anguish, combat, love, hate, anger and fear describe one form of PTS or another. The difference in today's mental health systems is that we seem to have a better grasp on what to do and what not to do for those suffering. Though I will be honest and say there are sometimes I'm not so sure about some of what I'm hearing second-hand on treatment and analysis for PTS. However, we are far ahead in our handling of PTS than when compared to our great-grandfathers and their great-grandfathers....
Maybe some day we will be able to manage PTS before it becomes such an issue .......
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PO1 Michael Fullmer
Yes, there is a difference on how one gets PTS, but, once it's there, it's there. Combat, trauma, sexual assault, etc., shouldn't matter. It's getting the right type of treatment that matters. I would urge anyone who even thinks they might have PTS to ask for help to see if you do have it. I hope this made some sense?
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I am a Vietnam Era Vet who has blown off or ignored this for years. During the last two yrs I have had significant health issues, and have been visited by some painful reliving of an ugly incident I had my last yr in service. So I would ask the same question, can PTSD come from a non combat incident?
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PV2 Raul Rivera - There is a high incidence of combat related / secondary / caregiver PTSD suffered by doctors and nurses caring for personnel from mass casualty combat wounds morbidity, and death - for which the VA has specific programs available particularly for female nursing personnel. Warmest Regards, Sandy
I have PTSD I wasent in the military myself but I suffered things I would never forget as a child from real young til I was about ten years old I am struggling with it myself right now I blocks it out for years but my sisters brought it up and now I can't get out of this rut of bad dreams and waking up in sweat
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