Not allowed to address IET Privates by their rank.

Why is it demeaning? Is it demeaning to call a lieutenant, lieutenant also. Political correctness is purely the government's way of socialistic control by limiting freedom of speech in miniscule form. Until you are to fearful of making any vocal utterances without consequences. Where's the US Constitution, TRADOC forgot this is America and they need to purge out the socialist controlling them and be reminded private is a rank and not a private part or sexual inuendo... this is the Military.

I am curious as to the context of this conversation .. are you shouting across a quad? Are you in their face? Are you passing instruments in surgery? Is this during PT?

I'm beginning to wonder how the military is getting anything done when it takes rank / fname / lname every time you need to get a conversation.

Downward - Last name
Upward - Rank
Peer2Peer - whatever

It depends on the context. I have had some senior military members address me by Airman when I had some great ideas, however they addressed me by Airman to show I don't know anything. Now, if you're going to address me by Airman because that's what I am, it's not demeaning.

Demeaning is how it is addressed, not the term itself.

I heard the same thing. my question is when did be addressed by your rank become demeaning? I was happier than a pig in mud when my Drills called me Private. This foolishness is what really degrades the NCO Corps by useless and ill-thought rules such as this. So I guess when we address them by their rank when they show up to the operational army they are going to have a serious case of WTF then right? As long as you are professional when addressing a soldier there should be no static at all............Of course TRADOC has the best interest of the soldiers at heart and nevermind the opinions of the NCO's who train and lead them everyday. Just my 2 cents.

I asked this question today with the outgoing CDR and 1SG. They are to be addressed as Warriors or rank/name.

Well for one its TRADOC. TRADOC is not the real Army and have for years had unusual policies, rules, regulations, etc. that you wouldnt find anywhere else outside of TRADOC. From my time in IET and NCOES I have always had issues with some of the policies that they would enforce. As long as this nonsense stays in TRADOC I dont see the problem with it aside from when Soldiers report to their first duty station they will be overly sensitive and will be all emotional if you call them just by their rank. I been in for seven years and earned my rank and when I was a PFC I did everything possible to become a SPC and so forth. If they feel some kind of way about being called PVT then maybe they should focus on how to change that. But at the end of the day its TRADOC Im not going to stress it.

Okay so what about addressing them by name only?

When I first got to reception they messed up my paperwork and had my first name down as my last name so for a day I got to wear by first name on my BDUs. The next day I got issued new uniforms. Anyways, I remember be referred to as "KEEN" all the way through SPC and saw nothing wrong with it.

If I have to address a lower enlisted for something, it better be positive! I address the PSG over any issues or concerns and he usually won't like it (only if it is negative). If I do address a lower enlisted I always put a last name with the rank because I know my soldiers from A-Z, even the newest! If I slip and call a private, I have 19 in the "mafia" come a run'n! So I limit to using a last name, just to make it easier! Now if it is the case of TRADOC enforcing this issue, to me it is the era we serve in! Embrace the "suck", adjust fire, and keep moving forward!

When my son was in the 68W course at Fort Sam Houston they were called "Soldier Medic" by the Cadre. It seemed silly to me but not nearly as silly as the notion that it's offensive to address a Private as "Private" instead of "Private __________".

I think that I have it figured out. Instead of talking we just nod. Three for an officer, two for an NCO and one for a...

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