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Quarterly dues for WHAT? Nothing in the Army has quarterly dues that I am aware of. This sounds like a serious ethical violation, if not criminal.
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you have to explain a bit further SGT. I know that Companies and such have "flower funds" and "hail and farewells" but that is usually senior NCO's and above who contribute to it.
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I would normally recommend raising this with the COC, after first raising the issue with the individual. However, after further thought, I suggest you consider raising the issue with the IG. Although engaging the individual, or the COC may stop the practice, raising it with the IG will give you protection from retaliation (for retaliation based on a protected communication). Any officer with the audacity to demand push ups--a corrective action--for not participating in a voluntary fund (assuming the money is used for gifts/plaques for departing members, or flower fund) would, in my experience, retaliate. Additionally, things like this "normally" don't go unnoticed by the NCOSC or COC, which is another reason I would consider the IG.
I would normally recommend raising this with the COC, after first raising the issue with the individual. However, after further thought, I suggest you consider raising the issue with the IG. Although engaging the individual, or the COC may stop the practice, raising it with the IG will give you protection from retaliation (for retaliation based on a protected communication). Any officer with the audacity to demand push ups--a corrective action--for not participating in a voluntary fund (assuming the money is used for gifts/plaques for departing members, or flower fund) would, in my experience, retaliate. Additionally, things like this "normally" don't go unnoticed by the NCOSC or COC, which is another reason I would consider the IG.
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I'm glad I read the responses before I posted mine. Cuz my first instinct was to tell you that your OIC is smoking a HUGE crackpipe. Of course, your OIC is still smoking a little something if they make you do push-ups for not DONATING to a fund you are NOT REQUIRED to donate to.
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Huh? Not only ‘no’, but ‘f*ck no’. Respectfully decline both dues and pushups for not paying. And if that’s going to be an issue, take it up with Commander/CSM at the next ecehelon.
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Ask for the memoranda, policy, or other documents related to this quarterly dies, so you can better understand it, and become a better participant.
The OIC may be treading on uneven ground.
The OIC may be treading on uneven ground.
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The email he sent out only said it was time for quarterly dues but I got the chance to ask him. It’s money for “farewell” cards and plaques. Now that I know what it’s for I don’t mind paying it but I don’t wan’t our lower enlisted having to pay. I will talk to him about it, sorry his email was vague and I was dumbfounded by it.
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SGM Jeff Mccloud
An informal fund, or cup and flower fund as it is referred to in regs and policies, is authorized. Donations are authorized. Fundraising events (bake sale, car wash, raffle, etc) are authorized.
Dues are specifically not authorized.
Dues are specifically not authorized.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
In addition to what SGM Jeff Mccloud said, push-ups as retribution is also very definitely not authorized. Your OIC may have good intentions, however his approach runs afoul of established rules. The NCOIC (whether that is you or someone more senior to you) may want to mentor this Officer before he gets himself in serious trouble.
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