Posted on Jul 19, 2023
Sgt Connor ORourke
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I’m a prior service Marine Sgt with three weeks Gap in service before going to AIT as an 11x can anyone fill me In on what to expect or what’s gonna happen cuz nobody really seems to know and I just wanna mentally prepare I was a POG in the corps Jo
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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You can expect to be treated like every other Soldier, as you should not make the same mistakes recruits make you should have a normal ride. You will be treated with the respect due, but expected to perform at levels above that of a recruit.

You may also be called upon to withe lead an element, or mentor a trainee who has been selected. The fact that you were a Sgt. In the Marines should make this tour seem like daily operations.
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Sgt Connor ORourke
Sgt Connor ORourke
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Awesome thank you I’m trying to go in with the expectation I’m a Sgt but at the same time I’m a trainee and fuck everything I think I know and just be a sponge
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Back in the dark ages when I did OSUT, there were several Prior Service Marines in my Training Company (Delta 8/2, Harmony Church). My view was that they were given more responsibility and as long as they performed, were treated more like soldiers. A couple of them were headed for OCS, both Vietnam War retreads.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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Sgt Connor ORourke That’s the right attitude. Yo will mail it and excell in the Army.
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
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I lateral moved from Infantry to Communications when coming off of MSG duty. I was in a similar situation being a Sgt in an entry level MOS school environment and it certainly has it's Pros/Cons. The best thing to do is be humble and keep your learning hat on. Be who you are but keep in mind you are a student and your #1 priority and obligation is to learn. Do that and you will be just fine. Good Luck.
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Sgt Connor ORourke
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Thank you
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SGT Aaron Atwood
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As a prior Marine turned soldier...

Retain what was good about the Corps. Retain the work ethic. Retain what it means being a Sergeant of Marines. The confidence that goes with that will be a positive contagion among both peers and cadre.

Along with that: keep an open mind. I kept my MOS so there have been only a few times that I needed to use my brain matter vs going on autopilot per se.
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Sgt Connor ORourke
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Did you find the transition hard at all? Does it still have the same feel as the corps?
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SGT Aaron Atwood
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Sgt Connor ORourke The paperwork was hard. Army doesn't understand that the Corps doesn't just hand out NAMs and COMs like candy (unless of course you're aligned with the right people). That put me, and still has me at a severe disadvantage compared to my E5 peers (ten years at four different stations in the fleet and all I have to show for it is not getting in major trouble). Online and on paper you're going to disappear for at least 36 hours. Hopefully you have competent admin people who can work with you on that. Keep an eye on your pay too; as mine got messed with.
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SGT Aaron Atwood
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Sgt Connor ORourke Oh, definitely not the same as the Corps. Lot more laid back, more of a 8-4 or 9-5 attitude vs being there until the issue gets solved.
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SGT Corey Sandberg
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I would maybe caution a bit on Sgt. Aaron A.'s response about just blindly expecting it to just being more laid back, as I am not sure he took into account that you are switching to an Infantry MOS and not a support MOS. A good rule of thumb I would say about 'normal duty hours' is that every rank I gained as an Infantry soldier I added about 1.5 hours to a 'normal' duty day. As a private it was 0545-1730, as a team leader it was 0500-1800, as a squad leader it was 0430-1830. Also, in the Infantry, you will absolutely stay until the job is done, in garrison and definitely in the field. There is a vast difference between Infantry and support MOS' in the Army and it is felt. It is not preached 'every soldier is a rifleman first,' like it is in the Marines, there are definitely Soldiers (probably the majority) who touch or fire a weapon maybe once a year. These Soldiers are of course infinitely important and do things us Infantry need and could never accomplish, so not knocking other MOSs. All the best in your switch, you mindset seems great, just go be the best, and take care of your Soldiers!
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As a prior service Marine Sgt, what can I expect during AIT as an 11X?
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I came back in with a few Marine E5s back in 2020, I responded to another similar thread if you can find that one.

Long story short it depends. You'll more than likely hang out at 30th AG on Fort Moore until they get you a class to hop into. Some Drill Sergeants allowed prior service special privileges like phones, separate rooms and weekend passes. Others were treated like brand new privates. I think it really comes down to how the CO and 1SG feel about prior service guys in their formation. Hopefully it all works out, good luck.
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Hey brother, the big difference is you should start at the AIT portion (ITB) of OSUT. Unless they did something weird and got basic on your contract as well. The biggest thing is be humble and try not to talk about the Marine Corps too much while in. Never talk down about how the Army does stuff. However, keep the Marine Corps mentality regarding PT, and always wanting to be the best. How you look after Marines should be similar to the way you look after Soldiers.

Don't sweat any training cycles every job is easy in the Military and so is every school. Also pro tip if you want to deploy go to 10th Mountain, Fort Drum NY. I've been on 2 combat deployments in the past 3 years. If you go anywhere else the likelihood of going on one is almost zero. If you need anyone to talk to or ask for help/tips throughout the transition feel free to DM me anytime. I was also a Sergeant in the USMC that went over to the Army.
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Sgt Connor ORourke
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Dude all I want is combat deployments idk how to message you but can you DM I would love to bend your ear for a bit bro
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Shot you a message, if you don't see it just reply here and I can give you my email or something else.
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You can expect to have some fun, and to be humbled.

I was enlisted for about a decade, then switched over to the comissioned side. As I went through school with young cadets in ROTC, I was very humbled. I was just a POG, but I knew a thing or two. Enough to think I was a hot shot. I was quickly humbled by the cadre. My fellow cadets also humbled me, though inadvertently. They thought I knew everything and would often ask for my advice. I quickly realized that I knew jack squat. So, I started being honest about it. "Hey guys, yeah I've been in a while, but really, I know a lot about very little. You can ask me about some things and I can tell you some stuff, and I have some great stories. But, that's just a small part of the big picture and I am switching jobs now. I am learning just like you. Let's figure this out together." That type of thing started happening alot.

My new attitude really helped earn me friendships. I am still close to several people from ROTC to this day, though there is a big age gap and experience gap, simply because I decided at the right time to see myself as no better than any other cadet. If I had something to offer or teach, then I did that. But I was there to learn and shoot the shit like everyone else. I wasn't in charge anymore. I may have still "outperformed" most of them and yes my experience played a big part in that, but I stopped seeing myself as the guy who had an edge on them, and rather, saw myself as an equal. I wasn't entitled to anything from them, or the Army.

When we were in the field this led to a lot of fun. Watching kids try to be Soldiers is hilarious when you're older, I thoroughly enjoyed the stupidity of some of my fellow cadets. And, I was often right there with them, acting stupid, or trying something out that was pretty stupid. But, I also throughly enjoyed their success and became extremely proud of kids who could outdo me in every which way, despite me having years of experience and a tour in Afghanistan. If you can bring that same type of joyful grunt attitude into your time in the Army, I think your transtion will be easier.

Last thing I'll say you can expect is difficulty. Getting this shift in my attitude was not easy. I was almost kicked out of ROTC. Only one cadre member stood up for me and I got a second chance. I saw the same with sevearl prior-service guys who came through. Embrace the Army culture, let the rough times slide off your back.
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Sgt Connor ORourke
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Thank you that is some sound advice
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Sgt Connor ORourke Enjoy the Army friend.
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SFC Marc W.
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It's always hit and miss when prior service roll through. It'll be up to the commander, 1sg and drills. Sometimes, especially with NCOs, they try to separate you a little bit and give you a little more lee way. But I've also seen douchers that just throw you into rotation with everyone else.

But just heading in with the attitude of being open and ready to learn will help, you'll likely only do the second half of 11 series training.
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Sgt Connor ORourke
Sgt Connor ORourke
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Ok that sounds about like what they were saying apparently it’s just kind of luck of the draw
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SFC Jerry Teichmiller
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I was a Staff Sergeant with over 10 years service and only had a short break in service. I decided to go in the Army, was sent to Ft. Jackson and within a matter of days was on my way to Ft. Gordon To Signal School. It was a bit of a shock going from Marine Grunt(0369), to Teletype Operator, But I just said this is not going to beat me and I finished the school and packed my bags for Ft. Bragg. The hardest thing to do was learning how the Army works. I had to suck it up and roll with the flow and soon, I was prepping to Retire. You hang in there and maintain your discipline Sergeant O'Rourke. Your going to be just fine.
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SGT Ruben Lozada
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Good afternoon Sgt Connor ORourke. Excellent post. Thanks for sharing this Brother Connor. You can expect to treated like a recruit, rather than a prior service NCO. I recall when I switched from Navy Reserves to active Army I was an E-5 in the Navy Reserves and got started as a SPC at Benning. I had to suck it up and learn what the Army was about. The transition was difficult, but I made it through. It wasn't easy, but can be done. The second week I was at training I was made a platoon guide because the previous Private sucked at it. Our platoon said I did an excellent job at leading them. You'll have good and bad days to come and You'll get to learn to "embrace the suck." But, You'll get to enjoy family day and most of all graduation, when You finally earn and get get to wear that infamous blue cord and being proud of becoming an 11Bravo.
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Sgt Connor ORourke
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I’m keeping my rank it’s in the contract I stay a Sgt so I think it might be a little different
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