Posted on Aug 29, 2019
Pros and cons self enrollment into ASAP?
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Is it bad to self refer yourself to ASAP? Would prevent someone from going to Poland down the road? Any dishonorable discharge?
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Self Referral is a shit ton better than Command Referral. as for keeping you off the Poland mission, that will depend on the length of treatment and what your Commander says. And self referral should not result in a dishonorable discharge
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LTC Jason Mackay
PFC Jeffrey Herrington agree
CPT Lawrence Cable
PFC Jeffrey Herrington - While I generally agree, I will state that there were a lot of what are often referred to as Functional Alcoholics in the Military. If they keep the alcohol and duty time segregated, they can go on for years without problems with Command.
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CPT Lawrence Cable - When I was stationed at FT Irwin, I swear there was an NCO in my platoon that was a functioning alcoholic.
CPT Lawrence Cable
MSG (Join to see) You probably have served with dozens. You would be surprised at how many fairly heavy drinkers are very good at keeping out of the public eye. You know they drink, they just get good at keeping it out of the workplace.
There is nothing negative about self enrollment into ASAP when you look at the reasons why you are considering it. If you need help, and you see that, then nothing else matters --get the help you need right now. I can't tell you what any consequences would be for self-enrollment (I seriously doubt you would receive any dishonorable discharge) but the consequences for not seeking help are very predictable. You will get worse, you will lose your career, friends, money, health, family, and ultimately everything. I'm sure that is what everybody says, but at 46 now, I've seen many of my peers, who I served with when we were in our 20s, now completely destroyed by substance abuse. It doesn't get better. You need to seek help.
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What about deployments will that affect my deployment status?
MSgt Michael Smith
SPC Rodolfo C. - It very well might, it might affect your security clearance too. But if it is bad enough that you think you need help, then it isn't a matter of if... its a matter of when your leadership/peers/etc. are going to notice --but they will notice. Or God forbid, you lose control and get in trouble. At that point, it won't be voluntary anymore, and you will go from having an illness to being disciplinary problem. At that point it will most certainly affect your career. It's hard to see the big picture when you are young, but please trust me --you want and absolutely need to take care of this now.
Only pros here. Sure a con would be people "know" you're going to it. But if you need help, then get it, there is no shame at all on seeking help!
Also think later on down the road when you have soldiers that you think could "need" it. You have experience with it and can sit down and talk to them about it.
Also think later on down the road when you have soldiers that you think could "need" it. You have experience with it and can sit down and talk to them about it.
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