Posted on Apr 2, 2015
CPT Assistant Operations Officer (S3)
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Rankism
Rankism-discrimination against people on the grounds of rank.

There has always been grudges held at the various levels but for what reason. Countless times a new 2LT walks into a situation where he is instantly disliked for merely showing up. How many times have we thought of a new Private as automatically going to make mistakes so you have to treat as such. Or, the CSM that everyone thinks they only care about Uniform violations and walking on the grass.

Recently we found that SMA Dan Dailey revise the tattoo policy. I, for one, didn't see that coming. I didn't think a new SMA would make such a change like that for soldiers. At times we feel that they are so far disconnected from the soldiers they may not have us in mind.

Is this something that we face. Do soldiers with a certain rank or position get grouped in the a mass assumption of others that had that rank in the past?
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MSG Instructor
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Perfect example of this is not holding the "individual" responsible for their actions such as one not making it to an appointment or srp. So let's just mass punish everyone instead of sticking to the standards that we all hear all the time.
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That is a good point. When one PVT messes up you treat them all like they are children. I have seen the same for some NCO's. One of them messed up something and now all of them pay. SRPs are a nightmare and sometimes we make them a lot harder than they have to be.

One thing that comes to mind is being there at 0700 for a 0900 formation.
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What is a SRP? I assume it is an Army term.
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MSG Instructor
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An SRP is Soldier Readiness Program. It is something we do before and after deployment. I'm sure all other services have something similar.
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MSG James Brown
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Let me enlighten y’all on something, all the things you do in the military is only good for the military these days because I was a 1sgt and I lived the life of both sides Active duty and Reserve and bust my ass to gain all ranks, yes I was the one that didn’t believe in rank had privilege because higher ranks did slot of mess but it just got covered up. I didn’t believe in having my own parking space because I’m a human just like anyone else. Yelp also I was the 1sgt that invited yelling ass CSM outside since they had so much to say what somebody didn’t do instead of saying “ thank you” for making things happen. My way of treating soldiers like people cause me to retire from the FBI over 32 years with honors and the military with honors cause you can treat people bad if you want but these days will come across their path again so people don’t let rank ruin your character or be a butt hole. I saw my 1sgt got shot in the chest at Ft Drum NY when I was a E4 only because he was yelling at this E5. What a sight to see. Every since that day my 1sgt said, “ soldier treat people the way you want yo be treated rank doesn’t cause you to be an ass hole.”
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SPC Theodore Reavis
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I was in the Va Army National Guard and I the 1st Sgt didn't like you ur not getting promoted I pose to been had mine E-4 rank and they kept it hidden from me. I join the ROTC program and they was heated when I found out I can transfer training and still get paid I had to get out the service cause I spent 10 yrs and still a E-4 and the white soldiers was making E-5 before me and been there less we go to the field for training it's even worse the black soldiers are on the front line and kept the white soldiers in the back so yes its rankism in the service
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SPC David Roberts
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While in service:
I never met a butterbar didn't need a clue unless he/she was prior service.
The only interactions I had with CSMs involved uniform or grass walking violations.
I was fairly useless as a PVT.
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SSG Frank J.
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Rankism becomes a real problem when it bleeds over to spouses. My wife (who has a Masters Degree) was snubbed by a 1SG's wife while assisting the CSM's wife with a project (I was a SPC at the time) Becaus of MY rank, the 1SG's wife went balistic. That didn't change when the CSM's wife spokie with her so my wife was "asked" to stop volunteering for the CSM's wife.
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SGT Jay Holland
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Of course there is a double standard with ranks. Many of the deployments I went on the award you were given was based on your rank. I was recommended for the Bronze Star and had it downgraded because I was only an E-5, even though I was doing the job of an E-6.
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CPT Lawrence Cichelli
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Once as an interim Band CO (I had the rank of 1SG), we were going to play the National Anthem for a hockey game. Me and my senior NCOs were trying to figure out how to get the band on the ice without killing ourselves. I had a young lady just came back from BCT/AIT and her 1st drill with our band asked my if she could make a suggestion. I asked her, OK, what's your idea? She had the solution, I laughed because here was this brand new Soldier coming up with how to solve the problem when 4 of us, didn't see it. My response was, OK everyone you heard the lady, this is what we're doing! It worked very well too!! Some times a fresh set of eyes can see through problems more clearly.
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1SG Ernest Stull
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Yes their is a stereotype for young lieutenants that seem to think that you the PSG's are not trustworthy or they let them run the whole show and never learn anything. That is just my opinion. The platoon leader and the PSG's should be glued at the hip.
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MSgt Joseph Holness
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It's also Real Prevalent in the VA system as well, regardless of their "Being Rank-Blind" claims.
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SSG Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic
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Yes it does happen,like it or not. But stop with the ism to everything.
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