Posted on Jul 12, 2015
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A high-profile shooting, like the June 17 crime that left dead nine members of a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, is typically followed by calls for greater gun control, along with counter arguments that the best way to stop gun crimes is with more guns.

"The one thing that would have at least ameliorated the horrible situation in Charleston would have been that if somebody in that prayer meeting had a conceal carry or there had been either an off-duty policeman or an on-duty policeman, somebody with the legal authority to carry a firearm and could have stopped the shooter," presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said in a Fox News interview on June 19.

A new study, however, throws cold water on the idea that a well-armed populace deters criminals or prevents murders. Instead, higher ownership of guns in a state is linked to more firearm robberies, more firearm assaults and more homicide in general.

"We found no support for the hypothesis that owning more guns leads to a drop or a reduction in violent crime," said study researcher Michael Monuteaux, an epidemiologist and professor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School. "Instead, we found the opposite."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/guns-dont-deter-crime-study-finds/ar-AAcDdis
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Capt Michael Wilford
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The problem with studies is they can be manipulated to produce any desired result. Since when is an epidemiologist an expert on violent crime, firearms, and the ratios at which firearms are used to commit and prevent crime? This would be akin to a crime statistician weighing in on epidemiology.
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MSG Harvey Kane
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Captain I am surprised at your ignorance.
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Epidemiologists are public health workers who investigate patterns and causes of disease and injury. They seek to reduce the risk and occurrence of negative health outcomes through research, community education and health policy.Sep 8, 2022
Notice epidemiologists study death and injury!
Number of Americans killed by terrorism in the last decade: 24. Number of Americans killed by guns in the last decade: 280,024.
see: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/oct/05/viral-image/fact-checking-comparison-gun-deaths-and-terrorism-/
I suggest you do some research: see: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
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LCpl Jose Lugo
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I believe in a honest law abiding citizen owning a gun for self defense and hunting as written in our US Constitution which was written for every American the right to bare arms. I do not believe in anyone or party changing our US Constitution.
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PO1 Robert Gasser
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Responsible gun owners don’t have issues with this subject. Most of us are in that category. So STOCK UP!
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RADM Commander
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Harvard; that says it all. It’s biased
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SGT Peter Hayes
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once again, the problem is not with the firearm it's with the people that. use them to commit the crime. and the acts of violence. if a person has it in his mind to commit a crime or a violent act, they find. a way to get there. hands on a firearm or use some other. Type of device to achieve. his goal
no guns ok use a sword. or how about a vehicle? or even explosive? how about knifes even common tools like hammers. clubs and many other items. no the problem is not with the firearm it's with the people that use them for nefarious. Purposes
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LCpl Kenneth Heath
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Bullshit! Anyone who believes that is an idiot.
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Edited 3 y ago
First and foremost, you can make research say whatever you want. That's the art of statistics.

Secondly, lets say for example that you are some crud, planning on an evening of robbery & rape. However some of your running buddies have recently had their as$e$ shot off because the formerly intimidated citizens have started resisting criminals like you. You also read in the newspaper the other day that 60% or more citizens were now carrying.

Now that is a real crime stopper.
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MSG Msb Ncoic
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More guns, less guns. When was the last time anybody did a violence study. People kill each other, guns, knives, rocks, hands. Guns are a tool .
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TSgt Aircraft Armament Systems
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Criminals don't follow, or care about gun control laws. All that does is make law abiding citizens less safe.
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SSG Brian Pearce
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Just like with anything if you are willing to spend the money you can get expert after expert opinion to support or disprove anything. The left wants strict gun control and they have donors and supporters with DEEP pockets. They have basically snubbed their noses at every law enforcement report or statistic disproving their arguments. Having worn a badge in several states and having been a Cop as many years as I was in the Army, trust me when I tell you that everything that is wrong with crime and gun control can be traced directly to politicians.
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SSG Brian Pearce
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PV2 Larry Sellnow I don’t recall saying we were, just like with all occupations there are good and bad. You’ll forgive me if I don’t take your opinion on which is which.
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