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If a Junior Enlisted Soldier can be an MP and write a citation or even arrest someone, who has violated the UCMJ; why can't the Junior Enlisted Soldiers at the DFAC tell the obviously overweight Soldiers (regardless of rank) that they can only eat Green Foods or the Salad Bar? We always hear at the "Safety Briefs" that we should "police each other up". This would be a good start. Oh wait, this would be an EO complaint because someone got their feelings hurt or that Soldier would be reprimanded for trying to help someone in their progress to uphold the standard. It's all about perception, right?
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Dining facility participation is already low at many Installations (for a variety of reasons that merit it's own discussion). I agree with the NCO above, if you make the DFAC a control point/restriction on what the SM could eat, they will just choose to eat somewhere else. Probably at the shoppette or fast food off post.
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SPC Stephen Bobchin
LTC Barry Hull With all due respect, DFAC food is almost never "good food". While it is generally filling, it is also flavorless and unappealing. After my first 3 years in, I grew to despise DFAC food, primarily due to the fact I was getting daily stomach cramps from it.
What I am amazed at are the number of people who don't have to eat at a DFAC daily, if at all, extolling how great they are. Menu items are limited, and always bland, with fewer healthy choices than would be expected. I personally dreaded having to eat at the DFAC, and tried to go seperate rations several times, only to be denied because I was a single soldier living in the barracks (including one time where I was put on a special duty, and basically did a year of staff duty).
Basically, I'm saying that DFACs are ok to offer, but they shouldn't be a mandated requirement from above (ie: allow the service member the option of seperate rats), and make the food a higher quality.
I will caveat by saying, at one point, some DFACs on Fort Riley were good, even including things like pasta bars and Mongolian bbq, but budget constraints caused a very sharp degradation in quality.
What I am amazed at are the number of people who don't have to eat at a DFAC daily, if at all, extolling how great they are. Menu items are limited, and always bland, with fewer healthy choices than would be expected. I personally dreaded having to eat at the DFAC, and tried to go seperate rations several times, only to be denied because I was a single soldier living in the barracks (including one time where I was put on a special duty, and basically did a year of staff duty).
Basically, I'm saying that DFACs are ok to offer, but they shouldn't be a mandated requirement from above (ie: allow the service member the option of seperate rats), and make the food a higher quality.
I will caveat by saying, at one point, some DFACs on Fort Riley were good, even including things like pasta bars and Mongolian bbq, but budget constraints caused a very sharp degradation in quality.
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SPC Bobchin you are right I'm at drum the food when they have enough is barely tastful or cooked enough I had food poisoning from the dfac not cooking eggs right my question is why can't we request separate rats I could buy a skillet and make my own food more healthy than the dfac with a lot more taste as well
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LTC Barry Hull
Well SPC, I think DFAC may vary a little form DFAC to DFAC but we will have to agree to disagree on what is good food. Most DFAC I have eaten offer a wide variety of choices, some healthier than others. Most tasty by my standards. As far as offering separate rats to enlisted singles, that would literally take an act of congress. Never had a Soldier get food poising in a DFAC.
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LTC Barry Hull
One more comment... and this is in humor...I used to tell my Soldiers that food was fuel. If you can taste it, you are wasting too much time eating it.
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SSG (Join to see) - I think I see the point you are trying to make. My concern with this is that if we had NCOICs/OICs at DFACs telling people what they can and can't eat -- then this could create a lot of issues. My first question would be -- what are the criteria that would be used to flag a service member as needing to be regulated (just height/weight or more?) -- and then also who decides what the healthiest alternatives are for that specific individual, keeping in mind there may be some medical issues?
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
Also, this is an issue that should be better addressed ahead of time and before DFAC is involved. The SM's chain of command should put the individual on a weight control program if he/she is outside of regs. If they show a lack of motivation to improve, then chapter. Right? Or is that too harsh?
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I agree with you Sir. A SM who has ben placed on the program has 90 days to before the final evaluation while being monitored every 30 days. If the SM has not improved by the 90 days then unless there is a medical issue which should already be identified by the SMs first line, this shows a lack of motivation.
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SFC Stephen P.
I know someone who lost 20 pounds by switching to a diet that included copious amounts of bacon.
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