Posted on Jun 8, 2014
Republican, Democrat, or other? What do we have more of here? What reasons do you like one party over the other?
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I have heard that the majority of the military tend to support the Republican party, although I am sure it is not a complete landslide.
More recently it seems that the Libertarian party has gained a lot of ground among service members.
I am doing a survey to see which way people in this group lean but I would also like to hear everyone's opinions on why they like one over the other, or what would get them to change their minds, or what they do and don't like about each party.
More recently it seems that the Libertarian party has gained a lot of ground among service members.
I am doing a survey to see which way people in this group lean but I would also like to hear everyone's opinions on why they like one over the other, or what would get them to change their minds, or what they do and don't like about each party.
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To be honest I actually vote for who I believe is the best candidate (I voted for Ross Perot)
Elections results are becoming:
"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss"
Elections results are becoming:
"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss"
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I put Republican but really i am sick with all parties they seem to be a bunch of idiots not really worried about America just there pockets.
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The GOP is split into 2 camps:
* One is the old Establishment GOP (RINOs),
* and the other is Tea Party Conservatives that are more Libertarian and who seek a return to the Consitution and vision of our Founding Fathers.
I am for the latter or Libertarian candidate, or Independent < whoever is better.
I will not vote for a Democrat or RINO Republican (like Lindsey Graham, John McCain, John Boehner, etc.) Together with the Democrats, they have fleeced the American people far too long and it's time for CHANGE -- the REAL kind of CHANGE that people can believe in. Not the lies coming from this scandal plagued, fraudulent Admin ( < cue the downvotes). I'm talking about the kind of change that will result in a smaller, more streamlined Federal Gov't that doesn't use its power to spy on its own citizens, rob them of their Constitutional rights, and doesn't use its power of the purse to dictate to the States.
* One is the old Establishment GOP (RINOs),
* and the other is Tea Party Conservatives that are more Libertarian and who seek a return to the Consitution and vision of our Founding Fathers.
I am for the latter or Libertarian candidate, or Independent < whoever is better.
I will not vote for a Democrat or RINO Republican (like Lindsey Graham, John McCain, John Boehner, etc.) Together with the Democrats, they have fleeced the American people far too long and it's time for CHANGE -- the REAL kind of CHANGE that people can believe in. Not the lies coming from this scandal plagued, fraudulent Admin ( < cue the downvotes). I'm talking about the kind of change that will result in a smaller, more streamlined Federal Gov't that doesn't use its power to spy on its own citizens, rob them of their Constitutional rights, and doesn't use its power of the purse to dictate to the States.
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I can agree with the split camps as well as the RINOs (McConnell, Snowe, Murkowski, Crist, Sanford, Christie, etc). Where I differ is while I am a staunch Tea Party Conservative I am most definitely not Libertarian nor will I ever be. I just don't have the very extrme views many of them hold, which to me puts them SOOOO far to the right that they roll over to the left (if that makes any sense). Yes, I do know there are some really good people who are Libertarian but I also have seen many more who have such intolerant views that delve deep into chaos.
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I had to go with libertarian due to the fact their main thing is individual liberty. I’m not pure libertarian, because if you read their platform they.re a little nutty.
I relate most to the Tea Party, but it wasn't an option in the poll.
I vote for the lesser of two evils, which in my opinion is republican. If the scales are tipped enough in the republican favor then I may start voting third party.
I relate most to the Tea Party, but it wasn't an option in the poll.
I vote for the lesser of two evils, which in my opinion is republican. If the scales are tipped enough in the republican favor then I may start voting third party.
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Personally, I'm an independent. I also believe that the difference between liberals and conservatives in this country is minuscule compared to political extremes elsewhere. The billions in campaign funding we see every election cycle has mostly gone toward hiding the fact that the DNC and the GOP are basically the same in terms of how they act and vote. I tend to side liberal on social issues and conservative on foreign policy. The thing I despise more than anything is the tendency in American politics to hate a good idea just because it comes from the other side.
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What I do not like is what I am forced to do here. label myself. I think all parties are corrupt and beholding to lobbyist and money. I would like to see everyone vote for a nobody. we would have a better chance of getting something done. There should be term limits on everyone of two terms and no retirement benefits for them if this is adopted. If not they should have to do 20 years like I had to do for a retirement check and benefits for life.
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Libertarian. Smaller more fiscally conservative government that doesn't get involved with the minute details of peoples lifes. Saves time, money and headaches. Socially liberal on that front. IE, if two dude get married, the government must recognize it if they are going to recognize a traditional marriage. The other alternative is to not recognize any marriage at all as a government, which is perfectly fine to me. Regardless of my personal convictions toward gay marriage, the government doesn't establish the moral boundries, the people do. the day we allow the government to establish it for us, we've lost our way as a society.
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I am a strong believer in personal freedom and libertarianism. I know some will question the disparity between the authoritarian environment of the military and my political beliefs, but I don't see the two as mutually exclusive. I chose to join the military and to accept the requisite limitations and controls on my life.
I view every person as having an invisible bubble in which they should be able to do anything they wish so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else and they are willing to accept any consequences of their behavior. I am regularly disturbed by national politics that try and enforce the "greater good" when this only will ever serve to empower the tyranny of the majority.
I also greatly distrust those that claim to be moral leaders for our country. Rather than parrot quasi religious propaganda, we would be better served if our leaders would take a moment to self-reflect on their personal ethics and the ethics of their political positions.
Right and wrong has always at its core been defined as what is good or bad for the society you belong to. That is why it is wrong to kill your neighbor, but okay to kill your enemy. It is also why it is so easy for our politicians to rationalize unethical behavior if the ends ultimately justify the means. But research into game theory and ethics indicates that "morals by agreement" (or ethics if you will) is ultimately the best way to maximize outcomes in the long term. And I will stop here before I go off on a tangent of game theory...
I would encourage every person to critically analyze their personal and political belief systems and see if they can find any logical hang ups that don't quite mesh. At the very least fully own your own system of beliefs so that no other person can sway you easily.
I view every person as having an invisible bubble in which they should be able to do anything they wish so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else and they are willing to accept any consequences of their behavior. I am regularly disturbed by national politics that try and enforce the "greater good" when this only will ever serve to empower the tyranny of the majority.
I also greatly distrust those that claim to be moral leaders for our country. Rather than parrot quasi religious propaganda, we would be better served if our leaders would take a moment to self-reflect on their personal ethics and the ethics of their political positions.
Right and wrong has always at its core been defined as what is good or bad for the society you belong to. That is why it is wrong to kill your neighbor, but okay to kill your enemy. It is also why it is so easy for our politicians to rationalize unethical behavior if the ends ultimately justify the means. But research into game theory and ethics indicates that "morals by agreement" (or ethics if you will) is ultimately the best way to maximize outcomes in the long term. And I will stop here before I go off on a tangent of game theory...
I would encourage every person to critically analyze their personal and political belief systems and see if they can find any logical hang ups that don't quite mesh. At the very least fully own your own system of beliefs so that no other person can sway you easily.
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I, like the majority of people I know, am generally libertarian (don't take my guns or my neighbor's right to marry whomever they want.) However, something to think about is that they are the party that would reduce our military spending the most. Translation: even more of us are out of jobs, in the military, as military contractors, and as DOD Civilians. Hopefully we fare just as well working in corporate America! Oh, that's right... we don't. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/11/recent-veterans-are-still-experiencing-double-digit-unemployment/
SO, if you see the country beginning to lean Libertarian, get a just-in-case degree in something that ISN'T "military studies". Healthcare is looking promising! ;)
SO, if you see the country beginning to lean Libertarian, get a just-in-case degree in something that ISN'T "military studies". Healthcare is looking promising! ;)
The unemployment rate for recent veterans is incredibly high
The jobless rate for veterans serving since 9/11 is much higher than for civilians in the same age group. Here are a few reasons why.
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I choose Libertarian ideology because it offers the least amount of government. Government does several things very well and fairly efficiently (national defense, regulation of interstate commerce, basic public services etc.), out side of these things it becomes intrusive and stifling. I am not against social programs, but very limited. Safety nets are usually the right thing to do, but who wants generations on welfare? I have never voted Democrat in my life, and when it's close I will move from the Libertarian candidate to the Republican. There is nothing that I like about Dem ideology, they are clearly anti 2nd amendment, and wish to reshape this great nation into something freakish and oppressive that I want no part of. That moron Obama pretty much put his cards on the table when campaigning for the '08 election stated that rural Pennsylvanians clung to their "religion and guns too tightly" !!! Guess what, barry just knocked the first two (and arguably MOST important) amendments of the Bill of Rights! He still got elected, TWICE! WTF, do not enough people not see through such blatantly un American remarks such as those? Clearly not, I guess blind ideology to such asinine things gay "marriage" and universal health care wins out. Sad state of affairs indeed.
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