Republicans Want To Do WHAT With The Debt Ceiling?

While this may not be a viable solution, simply raising the debt ceiling is like giving Motrin for Cancer....you're not treating the root cause of the problem though you may feel good for a while. The federal government needs to get its spending under control (to include issues within the DoD) and start making the hard decisions to get the federal debt ($18+ trillion) or we'll soon not even be able to service the debt.

The GOP proposal may not be the best plan but it accomplishes one thing that needs to be done: It acknowledges that there must be an end to deficit spending and it would be far better that We the People choose how it ends rather than our creditors. I can see something of the sense in the plan. It appears to categorize creditors rather than lumping them into one. Corporations do much the same in distinguishing between common and preferred stock. Those who want greater returns take greater risks and buy common stock. Those who will take lower potential returns for lower risk buy preferred stock. Thus, those who loan money to the government for guaranteed returns should stand in line behind those who loaned money to the government without even knowing they were doing it (eg, Social Security beneficiaries). That seems fair, doesn't it?

I'm sick and tired of these mind-numbing, useless tirades over how stupid THIS party is and how moronic THAT party is.

Let's leave the "R" and "D" and "Blue" and "Red" out of this... aren't they ALL THE SAME on the inside?

When WE THE PEOPLE finally realize that EVERY SINGLE PIECE of the Federal Government has gone off the rails, only THEN will we realize that radical change is the only answer. Unfortunately, (IMHO) too many mindless, ignorant so-called "citizens" are dependent on that corrupt government to see what's coming.

Look back at your history to every dominant civilization for the last 4000 years. Look at why they became weak and were finally conquered by "barbarians" (as compared to the "enlightened" culture of the dominant civilization).

Collapse is inevitable UNLESS we (the people) STOP letting these self-serving thieves and charlatans in the Federal government (yes, all parties and all branches) tell us how much THEY want to help us and how much the OTHER party wants to harm us.

Here's a couple of personal questions for EACH of us...

"When does compromise become capitulation? Where is the line between personal conviction and moral ambiguity?"

I would hope that you would answer these questions... then look at Washington, DC. Do you approve of what ANYONE there is doing?

So... can WE come together to hold off the collapse of this 236-year old experiment called the American Republic? Or will America end up as another chapter is the history book of failed civilizations?