Posted on Feb 5, 2017
Retirees: What were your reasons that made you hesitant to submit your retirement packet? Possible promotion? Not fully committed yet? Other?
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Over the years, many of us grow comfortable in the military lifestyle and benefits that provides for our families. After all, 20+ years deserves a big retirement for faithful service to the nation. Were any of you having second thoughts to submit your retirement packet when you could have stayed in longer?
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 21
I was more or less "forced" to retire vs voluntary. I submitted my packet with hesitation, as I was enjoying what I was doing in the Army, and would have been content with the present or a future assignment. However, I did land a good Fed job while my packet was being processed, so that helped. Was asked by former commanders to consider coming back on AD after 9-11(Civil Affairs - Iraq), but by that time, my family was getting used to me being around -so I declined.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
MAJ Mark N. One of my NCOs pulled his packet twice and then his wife finally made him submit it. He had 22 yrs so he was ok but, he had never done anything else in his life so it was the unknown factor that was holding him up. He found a good job later and was glad all worked out.
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MAJ Mark N.
Glad to hear your NCO landed on his feet, employment wise. That is not always the case, especially for those from the combat arms. Although I was an Airborne Ranger Field Artilleryman during my younger years, I selected Public Affairs as my "functional area" and successive assignments in PA helped me land a good job post retirement. With that, I would suggest all career combat arms officers consider a functional area that has applicability in the civilian world. My journey....
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A Marine Corps buddy told me that one day I would just wake up at 0300 and know that it was time to go - he was right. I was still having fun but just realized it was time and put in my papers.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
COL David Wayne Despite wanting to do so much more, eventually we all come to realize that we have to move on. I have crossed off so much I set out to do and with a list of some things I will not get to experience. Either way, I have accomplished a vast majority of my goals so far. The 0300 will come some day for me as my wife keeps asking when I will retire.
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I didn't have a choice I went out on medical, but my last day was still a sad day, the military was my life for so many years. If I could choose I would still be in.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
I have a few friends who were given MEBs and they had to leave early too. One would have retired this year. Both were good Soldiers and loved serving each day.
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I had no reservations when it came time for me. When I was a young soldier my BN CSM was retiring with 35 years of service and I asked him how do you know when it's time to retire. His response was clear, succinct, and stayed with me throughout my career. He said "when it ain't fun no more!".
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CPT Jacob Swartout
SFC Don Vance I remember a CSM saying the same thing when we were on detail at Ft Carson. He had just walked by us on his way to his office and said the fun was running out and the wife was pulling his arm to retire after 30 yrs.
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When most of your adult life (28 years) is spent in the military, returning to civilian life is not something that I personally took lightly. It was starting over with no guarantees. In hind sight, it was the right decision.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
LTC Mark Beattie It will seem different being a civilian and not having the same structure I was used to while serving. I'll get used to it eventually and enjoy more time with the family. Wife said my primary job will be to take the kids to school each day and that my next job will work around their pick up and drop off schedules. I guess I have been hired full-time already. It will be great to be around them more too.
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LTC Mark Beattie
You're right Jacob, it will take a little time. Assuming you seek to return to the civilian job sector, just be aware that the environment is different. I've worked as a defense contractor for several years now, but even working in a military environment it's different without the uniform. In some DoD environments contractors are considered outsiders, even those with military backgrounds. Once you take off the uniform leave the rank with it. No one likes the guy or gal who continues identifying with the rank they once were. Enjoy civilian life and the family once you make the leap. Good luck!! Mark B.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
LTC Mark Beattie I can't wait to retire but still have the concerns about what guarantees are there and ones that I have to adjust on. I know I will be alright but hope to find a career that will support my family. My primary goal is to provide for the kids and wife and then I get $10 each month for my reward. Just not sure how it will be once I see others not giving their full efforts while it was accustomed for me to ensure everyone in the company did. I have heard about that situation where a retired SM comes in and begins to hold others accountable. He eventually left for another job as he couldn't stand the management and they didn't fully support his point of views. He was right in that someone needed to put others in check however, in the end, he couldn't get the same kind of outcome expected if everyone were in the service.
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LTC Mark Beattie
Jacob - There are a few guarantees you receive having served. First, you'll always carry the Veteran status, which is respected by most people and businesses. Second, you qualify for a VA home loan and GI Bill benefits. Third, if you receive a VA disability rating of any level, you'll have some access to VA hospitals. I strongly encourage you to use an organization like the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) to assist you in screening your medical records and submitting a claim as part of your out processing. Don't be that guy or gal who says, "Oh, there's nothing wrong with me." You don't know for certain, and if something develops in 10 years or so that turns out to be service connected, it will be extremely difficult to get any consideration from the VA. Now is the time to get assistance and submit your claim. There are many, many instances where the VA doctors will determine something in your medical history is service connected, but not qualify at this time for a rating. However, once determined as service connected it can be reviewed periodically by the VA to determine if it exceeds the threshold for attaining a disability rating. Lastly, nothing in the civilian populace is guaranteed. While employment is heavily dependent on contacts and who you know, hard work, a positive attitude, integrity, loyalty, and ethics are major factors. I have feeling you'll do well!!
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The recent birth of my daughter. I'm already over 20, I'm just going to delay retiring a few years to give my family some stability and not cause a major life change while we have a newborn.... Plus... you know...2.5 a year...
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I personally have been looking forward to retirement. The problem I have is that I am planning on dropping my retirement in 2 months and I just came down on orders to Germany. Currently trying to see if I can get my PCS orders deleted so I can retire next spring.
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Two or three years out, I could feel the end coming. I just knew I was going to get one of those 'thank you for your service' letters. Thankfully, none of them ever came, even though I'm sure I was one or two names away from the cutoff point. Not having a degree really made me nervous, especially having one of those grunt jobs that have no value outside of the military. So, I began pursuit of a degree, because I knew it was a matter of time. Shortly after, I tore my Achilles, barely a couple months outside of the 20-year mark. That was a career-changing point, because even after surgery and a period of healing, I could't pass the run on the APFT anymore (to add some perspective, I used to max the run in my younger days). This really hastened my get out process. To avoid being chaptered out, I opted to retire. I won't delve into the circumstances that took place as I was getting out, but it wasn't pretty. Long story short, I got out with a lot of angst, and regret. Truth be told, I wish I'd be more selfish and had set myself up for better on the way out.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
SSG (Join to see) Hope all goes better for you in your next chapter of life. I have a few friends who received MEBs and wanted to stay in. They both would have retired about 1-2 yrs ago had they been able to stay in for their 20.
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I didn't hesitate, I was burned out and in pain all of the time. A year after I retired I was refreshed and the issue that had been causing me pain for years had healed. I would have liked to have gone back on active duty, but I wouldn't have been able to go back into my career field. I had developed an allergy to nickel and that was causing my fingers to split open. No more communications work for me.
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CPT Jacob Swartout
Good thing is your pain is gone. Hope you found a great career do something that works for you. I'm still researching careers once I decide to retire from the ranks.
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SSG Laurie Mullen
It took nine months for my fingers to heal up after I drove off post. I'm working in law enforcement now. I received the job offer as I was driving off post after I picked up my blue ID card.
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