Posted on Jan 18, 2021
SGT Robert McCuistion
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Ok, so this might be a bit cliche. And I need some help with this because I despise stolen Valor. This guy is saying he went to both OCS and ROTC. He is saying he was an O3. Is this even possible?
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CPT Student, Cyber Operations Operations Course
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It’s definitely possible to do both. He could have participated in rotc and then commissioned through ocs. He could have even commissioned as a 03 right away if he was like a dentist, chaplain, PA, etc. Looking at the context of the message though, he’s lying.
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SGT Robert McCuistion
SGT Robert McCuistion
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That was my thought too, sir. Thank you.
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James Meyer
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No...they are just two separate routes to earn a commission. You either go to college and join ROTC, graduate, and get a commission with a 5 year commitment, or you graduate college, and go the lazy OCS route to get a commission. You don't get a bachelor's degree by attending a 4 year school while simultaneously going to junior college and transferring to a 4 year school your last two years. You pick one route. It's impossible. Dude is just being dumb like majority of the people online.
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1LT Digital Strategy
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Yes, this is extremely possible. You can participate in ROTC without even being obligated to the military. Or you can not meet the standard and get cut, later enlist and go OCS.
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CPT Jose A “Tony” Fernandez
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Possible. Why, though? Finally, there isn’t enough background knowledge to understand the issue.
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SGT Robert McCuistion
SGT Robert McCuistion
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Sir, I questioned him further, and as stated in the other posts, he buckled and admitted to Stolen Valor. Something set red flags off a couple days in, and when he said some stuff to me, I brought it here. The issue, sir, is resolved; but if it was not, rest assured I'd bring more information to light.
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CPT Jose A “Tony” Fernandez
CPT Jose A “Tony” Fernandez
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Oh well; there you have it! Case closed. Thanks.
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CPT Christopher Stanco
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I went through OCS with someone who also did ROTC. Not sure of the details but needless to say, that candidate just retired from As a full bird.
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SGT Robert McCuistion
SGT Robert McCuistion
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Sir, I appreciate it, but I outed him as Stolen Valor. He stated he just wanted to feel appreciated, to which I responded, "enlist". I appreciate the help though.
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CPT Christopher Stanco
CPT Christopher Stanco
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SGT Robert McCuistion
Stolen valor is infuriating.
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SGT Robert McCuistion
SGT Robert McCuistion
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CPT Christopher Stanco yes sir, it really is
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1st Lt T 38 Instructor Pilot
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Probably a troll, but during my time as a Gold Bar Recruiter, I did help some students find options outside of ROTC when the program wasn't working for them. ROTC dropouts that end up commissioning through OTC/OCS are more common than you think.
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CPT Brad Wilson
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It’s possible he might have done his MSI and MSII years dropped out then later enlisted and went to OCS or the other way around he started OCS didn’t finish ten later used his GI Bill to go to school then went the ROTC route
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COL Jeff Williams
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You can do both and fail both, but if you complete one, you cannot do the other
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COL Jon Thompson
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This is possible. He may have started with ROTC and never signed an ROTC contract which is possible for the 1st 2 years. Later, he may have decided he wanted to be an officer and enlisted for OCS assuming he had a college degree. I doubt he did it the opposite way where he started with OCS and dropped out, only to then join an ROTC program. Once he commissioned, it's fairly easy to make captain. Now if he said he came in as an O3, that would not be correct. Both OCS and ROTC commission 2LTs not CPTs
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