Posted on Jan 3, 2015
SPC Stephanie Oanes
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Alright so heres the scenario: you have a friend who you've known for the past few years that you deployed with and you spend a lot of this time with this person since you both left the military. Everytime you both go somewhere, he/she brags to store employees, waitresses, anyone who will listen, about how they killed people, got blown up, etc when in reality, their deployment was QUITE the opposite and have no badges, medals as proof to show for it!? And then also blames PTSD for everything? Would you call your friend out and risk losing the friendship? Or would you let them continue to fabricate their story to let them feel like a badass and ignore it? I feel like this is offensive because you have soldiers who experienced things like this and now they have to live with things like PTSD for the rest of their lives. You have those who are truly affected by things like this, and then those that fake it and in this case, the friend who is faking it to feel like a badass overseas.
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SGT Graham "Tom" Town
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Hard question to answer. This could be due to what used to be called survivor guilt; or it could be compensation for percieved inadaquacy of the individual while others are lauded as heros. The person is not doing this so that they feel good; they know the truth. They are doing it to increase their worth in the eyes of others. This individual is hurting inside, and outing them publicly would increase that hurt. If they mean something to you, tread very carefully. In any case this person has a real problem and needs professional help.

One last thought. This person is not causing harm to anyone but themselves (as is the case with almost all posers); but they are causing serious harm to their own mental stability. These folks need our help not our scorn as they were damaged by their service. It is different than a lost arm or leg, but it is in some ways just as debilitating. Be kind they are still our Brothers & Sisters and need our support. It does not increase our worth or image to publically insult or demean them.
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I would question survivor guilt. You pretty much have to have been through a traumatic experience for that. Some people are just liars. They enjoy feeling special. They know what they doing. They might fee. inadequate but then they should do something to prove their worth. Saying such things can harm others. It can strain relationships and inflict emotional distress. Some people don't want to hear about it or recall anything about it. A person trying to claim their badassery could bring up some bad memories.
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ME!.... lol. everyone that has been in a little poop down range over exagerates an experience. if he doesnt say that he killed bin laden, what's the point. who really cares. i love hearing stories about a battle, a fight, a mission... but nothing, absolutely nothing, beats the story they tell me about their safe flight home. so if your friend is exagerating a bit to get a little attention, or to get people to laugh, or to make people realize that your unit actually did something they should be proud of, i say let them preach. laugh about it. again, only if it doesnt hurt anyone.

id love to tell you about the time i had Bin Laden in my sights. but i was called by the White House and told to stand down so the Navy Seals can get all the credit. and my roommate woke me up. lol.

finally, one day you will be old and gray. your grandkids and neighborhood kids will ask you about your service. you will exagerate a little just to keep their interest. what you dont realize you are doing is motivating the youth to do something special... something all of us have done on this site. defend our country. good luck with how you approach the situation. i hope you dont lose a friend over something so small.
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SGT Brian Watkins
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It's one thing to make an actual event a little more interesting by adding some flair to it, but it's another to completely fabricate a story that never happened. Or worse, make someone else's story your own that you happened to hear yourself.
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SGT Brian Watkins completely agree. I worked with the staff that ran logistics for us people out of KAF. 90% of the people on our Bn staff weren't called to do anything other than supply the war fighter. I did airdrops, sling loads, and pathfinder ops in RCS and RCW. Due to th nature of my skill set and qualifications, I was tasked to provide a service that was high vis. Most Everyone wanted to go on my missions. It was something exciting, muck like the convoy security team we had under us. Most soldiers want to be part of these types of missions. Our truck plt was hit a few times. My group was shot at a few times. Hearing them retell the story to the guys that didn't get a chance to go was entertaining. They really over exaggerated the truth. But after the first time we got hit, guys came back to tell the story, next thing I knew is I had a myriad of soldiers wanting to volunteer to help. I could've called the story tellers out. But we war at war. Other than embarrassing them, I let them have their 5 minutes of fame. Turns out, I never had to ask for volunteers to go on an airdrop mission or sling load or recertify an lz/Pz/dz anymore. They came to me. It educated me that if given an opportunity, Soldiers that most consider non combat ready, would go the extra mile to be part of something big.
I tend to exaggerate my experiences now. My combat time was fun and I'm glad I got to experience it. But I must applaud the heroes out there that do it day to day. It's a hairy way to live. And I'm just glad to have been able to be n the same "foxhole" with them even if for a minute, throwing lead at the enemy.
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1LT William Clardy
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MSG (Join to see), it's one thing to exaggerate when swapping lies in the barracks with other soldiers (who are expecting a little pizzazz in a "There I was.."), it's another to portray yourself as Billy Badass to unknowing civilians.

I am starting to get a little tiny hint of gray, if you look close with one eye and squint the other, and I can't recall fabricating a story in the last three and a half decades. I've actually had cadets comment that my stories weren't as exciting as other prior-service guys.

If I want my sons' ears to perk up when I'm telling them what I did, I crank up the humor a little: "Yeah, we were up on Signal Hill, Bill waiting for a good sunrise picture with his better-than-pro camera. Watching the sky lighten up, listening to a dog barking, listening to a .50 cal fire a really long burst, and then realizing we're sitting in an SUV in the open on top of a hill a good 50 or 60 feet taller than any nearby buildings and we decided now would be a really good time to go grab some foo-foo coffee from the Green Bean.."
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SPC Stephanie Oanes, we had a soldier that ETS'd from the Army who ended up living with one of his friends who happened to get out of the army shortly after he did. This soldier did the same things that you speak of, however the endstate of this relationship was that the soldier ended shooting his friend and killing him. This friend needs some help or some kind of outlet for these discussions whether or not it is PTSD driven or not.

I think this friend is looking for help, he just doesn't know how to ask for it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/gary-smith-guilty-of-involuntary-manslaughter-in-2006-shooting-of-fellow-army-ranger/2012/09/19/d2a1885a-01be-11e2-b260-32f4a8db9b7e_story.html
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CSM David Heidke
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My friends do not do this. If they did, they would no longer be my friends.

The same goes for anyone in any career.

I don't like or spend my time with liars.
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SFC J4
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Friends should be honest with each other.. just asking the right way can make a hell of a difference
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