Posted on Nov 8, 2018
Patricia McIntosh-Mize
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My son just took the ASVAB today and scored a 96. Apparently did not do well on mechanical but did well otherwise.

I don't know how these things are scored. Is 96 a good score? Will this help his chances of getting in to Army OCS, which is his ultimate goal?
Thank you!
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SPC Grunt
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Yeah it’s a good score. But unless he’s in ROTC in college or the military academy, there’s no way in hell hes gonna get to OCS without some time in service. Also remind him that Infantry leads the way. And Airborne fights first.
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Patricia McIntosh-Mize
Patricia McIntosh-Mize
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It says on the link provided above that, in order to qualify for Officer Candidate School as a civilian, you must be:
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* A U.S. citizen (check!)
* A college graduate with at least a four-year degree (check!)
* Between 19 and 32 years old (you must enter active duty or ship to training by your 33rd birthday and accept commission prior to age 34) (check!)
* Eligible for a secret security clearance (I would assume so -- he has no criminal record, etc., no mafia or ISIS ties, etc.)
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So if he has all that AND he scored well on the ASVAB, why would he have to have time in service first? That is not a listed requirement. Have the requirements changed recently?
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SSG Steven Borders
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Patricia McIntosh-Mize Here is a checklist for an OCS Packet. https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/assets/directorate/OPMD/OCS%20CHECKLIST%20V9.pdf This is from the HRC website. Like SPC (Join to see) was saying that he will have to have some active duty time before going unless he in ROTC or a Military Academy. Has he talked with a recruiter? I wish him all the best and hope he finds what he is looking for in his career path.
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LTJG Student Naval Aviator (Sna)
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SSG Steven Borders
There's a separate category on that site just for civilian OCS applicants.....
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SPC Information Technology Specialist
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Patricia McIntosh-Mize - civilians can go ocs...but obviously ROTC or prior enlisted makes your life easier...security clearance, if no foreign ties, credit history is very important too, there are people who lose it or fail to be able to renew due to credit issues (mortage, loans, etc especially if married and file jointly)
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SGT Russell Brown
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In 1982 I scored a 98 on my ASVAB. I enlisted as a Security Policeman and dog trainer/handler. Midway through basic training, at which I received all three ribbons (basic training ribbon, marksmanship and honor grad) I was called to the orderly room and notified that my enlistment contract was being canceled and handed me a slip of paper, upon it was three AFSC's Histologist/Morgue Attendant, Nuclear Medicine and linguist. I was told to pick one of these occupations or
I was to be discharged by weeks end for the good of the service and sent home. If I so desired I could try to enlist again. In six months in another branch of service. I was given 5 minutes to make the most important decision I would ever make at 17 years of age. All because the Air Force couldn't get enough quality applicants to score high enough on the ASVAB to qualify for these AFSC's. So insteadof being rewarded for being in the top 2% of all recruits and a GT score of 132 my lowest being a 122 in clerical. I was punished by losing my dream job of becoming a dog handler/trainer and Security Policeman in the Air Force. I was exposed to death on a daily basis. Human bodies ripped apart, mutilated and burnt beyond any recognition by the machines of war 4 years of hell. I've seen every way a human being can die. All because I scored too high a score on that test. And I still being punished with flashbacks, nightmares. Agoraphobia, PTSD, violent outbreaks. Severe depression, multiple suicide attempts, Can't hold a job. What's the point we die no matter what we do, we're gonna die, but which horrible death awaits us? Burned up? Cancer ran over by a Bradley APC? Direct mortar hit? All our deaths are waiting for us , everything else is just a distraction ( job, relationships, vacations) to keep you from thinking about how your gonna die. Take it from. Me not many of us die peacefully in our sleep. Most deaths are painful, gruesome long suffering horrific events I've seen and lived it every day I served It was a new lesson on the carnage involved when steel meets human flesh at high speed (E=mC2) energy equals mass squared. My prowess at taking tests, my ability to retain all I read, has brought me nothing but pain and sorrow. Disappointment and depression. Literally caused from picking up Bodies and body parts at Air craft accidents, heads and arms and feet at the point of impact when fully loaded UH -60 meets another fully loaded UH-60 twenty feet off the deck traveling 85 knots per hour. Rotor and tail blades have no mercy on human flesh and do not let go or quit no matter how loud you scream UNCLE!!! the full tanks of JP4 will fuel the fires and insure any unlikely survivors will suffer a painfull and gruesome death. 14 soldiers remains burnt, chopped to piecesand strewn in the Mohave desert. Because the size of the area of the crash site and the dispersion of human remains of great distance in all directions, the animals that are indigenous to the desert were enjoying a free meal before we could scour and recover all the bits and pieces. Akuna Ma Tata. The circle of life. It consumes me to till this day it haunts me. I wasn't offered OCS, no perks, no bones, no rewards, but I was given a lifetime supply of mental anguish and toture, memories of young brave men decapitated and his foot being carried off gripped tightly in the jaws of a half starved, but extremely great fully emaciated coyote. I hope your experience in the military can become as vivid and memorable as mine still are. Ahh the gift that keeps on giving. Thank you Uncle Sam!!!!
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Patricia McIntosh-Mize
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I'm so sorry for all you've been through. For your sake, I wish you had chosen "linguist."
There is a book you might enjoy called _The Midnight Library_ by Matt Haig. It's all about having the chance to choose a different path and the many unexpected ways in which each given path could play out. Wishing you healing and peace.
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SGT Russell Brown
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SGT Russell Brown
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SGT Russell Brown THANK you for the reading suggestion. I'll be sure to get a copy. I wish your Son the best in the pursuit of his career path,, be it in the military ranks or on the corporate ladder. In my experiences in both, the more intelligent the individual, the greater the frequency and intensity of the hauntings the ghosts of past military experiences visit upon you. Not so much on the civilian side. My sincerest gratitude for your kind reply. I wish you and yours the best. Stay safe.
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SSG Thomas Gallegos
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Unless he has a bachelors degree he cannot go straight to OCS.
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Patricia McIntosh-Mize
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He has a degree from an accredited college.
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