Posted on Apr 12, 2014
Shaved heads in basic training; is this mandatory? If it is, then why and why only for males?
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So I was in basic training land today to help with some medical stuff. I couldn't help but noticed all the shaved heads all over the place and then the females with 20 ft of hair. In an era where we are screaming equal treatment; is this equal?I am also wondering why does a new private have to get his head shaved in the first place? Why not just a haircut within Army Standards?
Have the lines between male and female been erased? Are they trying to be erased or are we picking and choosing which ones we want to erase? Why does a male soldier have no choice in keeping his hair but a female does? If you love Liberty you will vote below.
ADDED: Could this be considered a form of hazing with the crackdown on hazing since this is obviously not a requirement but more of a tradition? I'm not saying I think it is I'm just asking the question. If it's not required and it doesn't apply to everyone.
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Well, well, well what do we have here?
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/08/rtc-boot-camp-haircuts-navy/21439483/
Have the lines between male and female been erased? Are they trying to be erased or are we picking and choosing which ones we want to erase? Why does a male soldier have no choice in keeping his hair but a female does? If you love Liberty you will vote below.
ADDED: Could this be considered a form of hazing with the crackdown on hazing since this is obviously not a requirement but more of a tradition? I'm not saying I think it is I'm just asking the question. If it's not required and it doesn't apply to everyone.
*****UPDATED******
Well, well, well what do we have here?
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/08/rtc-boot-camp-haircuts-navy/21439483/
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Posted 11 y ago
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The only person in my basic training that had to have their head shaved, was this one dude who showed up with a bright orange mohawk. Everyone else got a buzz cut.
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Ask yourself, did they make women shave their heads when they allowed women to serve in the armed forces? Then why all of a sudden does this become an issue?
Just feels like we’re looking for a reason to be upset about the latest coed MOS and training standards. Lets not forget there was a time when women once they got through basic training were expected to only wear skirt uniforms with heels, no pants. Military standards for appearance has never been equal. To insist every aspect of regulations should be equal regardless of gender is just nitpicking.
Just feels like we’re looking for a reason to be upset about the latest coed MOS and training standards. Lets not forget there was a time when women once they got through basic training were expected to only wear skirt uniforms with heels, no pants. Military standards for appearance has never been equal. To insist every aspect of regulations should be equal regardless of gender is just nitpicking.
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The head shaving is technically a de-lousing measure and only still done as a throwback to the era where de-lousing was still regularly done.
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It’s moments like this that I absolutely hate being in todays army. Take a step back from the question you have presented to this group and ask yourself “Am I a pussy?” Because Christ sake man, did shaving your head for basic training hurt you in any way? Are you scared for life from it? Take some time and learn some Army history. This magical device that you sit around and thumb fuck all day will give you all the answers you need.
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The shaved head, to me, is a large part of the team-building experience and putting all recruits on the same level. As for females, I seem to remember when they were all trimmed into a basic neck length hairstyle that achieved the same ideas for them. The whole idea of being part of a basic training flight, platoon, squad or whatever is to perform as one...a shaved head contributes to that endeavour.
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I believe that if all these women who are crying for equal rights, they Should have their heads shaved also!
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Having served over 20 years in the Army I am tired of all the whining. Let's be real, the Army has become a bunch of cry babies crying about any and everything like a 2yr old. The Marines haven't changed anything since I can remember. Their slogan of The Few, The Proud, The Marines has been around since I could watch TV. So what they get their heads shaved, i did it and the men that served before me did it. Let's put our efforts on something that really matters like sexual harrassment, sexual assault, and toxic leadership to name a few. The Army has become more worried about what you wear when off duty and females wearing braids than the things that affect the soldier directly.
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The Romans first shaved heads & beards for standardizing troops & so in hand to hand combat hair could not be gripped by the enemy. That plus sanitation are good reasons to shave male heads. Females should have standard short cuts for ease of cleanliness and standardization. Hurrah!!!
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The shaving of the head makes it simple to keep hair within regulations as getting haircuts in basic is a massive effort involving marching everyone in the unit to the barber. Those cuts last longer.
Females must also keep their hair in 670-1 regulations during basic training there are different standards because there are two sexes. Females may weR their hair short or long but it must be confined to not interfere with training and mission readiness, and
requiree headgear.
Females must also keep their hair in 670-1 regulations during basic training there are different standards because there are two sexes. Females may weR their hair short or long but it must be confined to not interfere with training and mission readiness, and
requiree headgear.
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Rather than debating different grooming standards between male and female. Why not debate why the various branches have different standards for grooming. From observations over the years it would make more sense that there are common standards especially when members of a force are from different Branches. Army Navy Marines Air Force and Coast Guard.
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