Posted on Apr 12, 2014
Shaved heads in basic training; is this mandatory? If it is, then why and why only for males?
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So I was in basic training land today to help with some medical stuff. I couldn't help but noticed all the shaved heads all over the place and then the females with 20 ft of hair. In an era where we are screaming equal treatment; is this equal?I am also wondering why does a new private have to get his head shaved in the first place? Why not just a haircut within Army Standards?
Have the lines between male and female been erased? Are they trying to be erased or are we picking and choosing which ones we want to erase? Why does a male soldier have no choice in keeping his hair but a female does? If you love Liberty you will vote below.
ADDED: Could this be considered a form of hazing with the crackdown on hazing since this is obviously not a requirement but more of a tradition? I'm not saying I think it is I'm just asking the question. If it's not required and it doesn't apply to everyone.
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Well, well, well what do we have here?
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/08/rtc-boot-camp-haircuts-navy/21439483/
Have the lines between male and female been erased? Are they trying to be erased or are we picking and choosing which ones we want to erase? Why does a male soldier have no choice in keeping his hair but a female does? If you love Liberty you will vote below.
ADDED: Could this be considered a form of hazing with the crackdown on hazing since this is obviously not a requirement but more of a tradition? I'm not saying I think it is I'm just asking the question. If it's not required and it doesn't apply to everyone.
*****UPDATED******
Well, well, well what do we have here?
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/08/rtc-boot-camp-haircuts-navy/21439483/
Basic Training
Grooming Standards
Equality
Drill Sergeant
Edited >1 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
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This is more a question of personal hygene. If your ever got head lice in school then you would appericate the shaved head.
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We had to get a gas mask on and sealed in I believe it was 8 or 10 seconds in the 1980’s. No beards and short hair made it possible. WMs were not required to do it. Never understood why not but just chalked it up to another double standard like the PFT. Also short hair was good for Field hygiene.
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I've always understood it as uniformity. In basic, everyone is the same. Doesn't matter what your Mos is. The only thing that matters is you learning to be a soldier. Another point is it would take a lot longer if we got specific haircuts. It's so much faster to just shave the head and be done with it. The government has to pay those barbers as well, we all know how cheap the government can be. Then lastly, it will grow back.
As for females, yes their hair will grow back too but it takes a lot longer. Their standards are quite a bit different from males in 670-1. I am all for equality though. I feel like the most reasonable thing would be to make them all get the same haircut. But I'm fine with them not being a bunch of GI Janes. Just my 2 cents.
As for females, yes their hair will grow back too but it takes a lot longer. Their standards are quite a bit different from males in 670-1. I am all for equality though. I feel like the most reasonable thing would be to make them all get the same haircut. But I'm fine with them not being a bunch of GI Janes. Just my 2 cents.
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CPT William Jones
My little argument is there should only be one reg. Makes me no difference what it is some guys' would like to grow long locks themselves so write the reg anyway the puzzle palace wants and publish it. One rule for all soldiers.
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When I went to basic I had a small ponytail and DS Torres got the barber to cut it off. I had to hold my ponytail in my cupped hands till everyone in the platoon got buzzed.
Aside from my own experience if women want equal treatment they should expect equal treatment. Just my 2 cents.
Aside from my own experience if women want equal treatment they should expect equal treatment. Just my 2 cents.
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Takes away from individuality, less hair maintenance (like you have time to brush and comb your hair, not with them Drill Sergeants on your ass, barely get time to shave your face), heigen purposes ie lice
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Males getting their head shaved is mandatory. Our drill sergeants told us that it was more for hygiene purposes. Uniformity plays a role, too. As of now, Army regulation prohibits females from shaving their head.
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I don’t agree that women should get their heads shaved. This would not be exactly “equal” because it would take so much longer for women to grow their hair back to requirements length. Moreover, they would look silly once they graduate basic training and their hair is about the length of a crew cut.
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