Posted on Apr 12, 2014
Shaved heads in basic training; is this mandatory? If it is, then why and why only for males?
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So I was in basic training land today to help with some medical stuff. I couldn't help but noticed all the shaved heads all over the place and then the females with 20 ft of hair. In an era where we are screaming equal treatment; is this equal?I am also wondering why does a new private have to get his head shaved in the first place? Why not just a haircut within Army Standards?
Have the lines between male and female been erased? Are they trying to be erased or are we picking and choosing which ones we want to erase? Why does a male soldier have no choice in keeping his hair but a female does? If you love Liberty you will vote below.
ADDED: Could this be considered a form of hazing with the crackdown on hazing since this is obviously not a requirement but more of a tradition? I'm not saying I think it is I'm just asking the question. If it's not required and it doesn't apply to everyone.
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Well, well, well what do we have here?
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/08/rtc-boot-camp-haircuts-navy/21439483/
Have the lines between male and female been erased? Are they trying to be erased or are we picking and choosing which ones we want to erase? Why does a male soldier have no choice in keeping his hair but a female does? If you love Liberty you will vote below.
ADDED: Could this be considered a form of hazing with the crackdown on hazing since this is obviously not a requirement but more of a tradition? I'm not saying I think it is I'm just asking the question. If it's not required and it doesn't apply to everyone.
*****UPDATED******
Well, well, well what do we have here?
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/08/rtc-boot-camp-haircuts-navy/21439483/
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Posted 11 y ago
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1. because you were lawfully ordered to. 2 Traditional tactics have been to tear you down to build you up. It's hell getting so many all on the same page in so short a time. 3. Professional appearance.
Also, Women are supposed to have their hair UP in a bun when in uniform. As for Post basic, combat duty, if there is a risk of NBC threat, hair can get you killed. Especially facial hair.
Also, Women are supposed to have their hair UP in a bun when in uniform. As for Post basic, combat duty, if there is a risk of NBC threat, hair can get you killed. Especially facial hair.
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Both should have their heads shaved. It's about stripping off your old life as you transition to the military. If women want to be equal, they should get treated equally and their grapes should be shaved as well.
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The standards in AR 670-1 are different. You can add to but not take away.
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Everyone remembers how uncomfortable they were when they got to basic. The haircut is the first moment you look around and realize everyone else is just as uncomfortable as you are. You can’t pretend to be unphased by blood slowly dripping off your scalp. Basic would’ve been an entirely different environment if we didn’t start off on equal ground with the haircuts.
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Guys. What’s the issue with shaving your head during boot camp? Easy hygiene and maintenance for the next whatever weeks boot camp lasts. One less thing to worry about and enabling recruits to focus on their reason for being and focus on indoctrination and learning.
It’s an insignificant issue in the overall scheme of things.
Women are to have hair length within regulations, if they want to shave their head, they can. I don’t think most guys care one way or the other and leave it up to the ladies to do what they will with their hair.
Hair length is not a significant matter of equality.
It’s an insignificant issue in the overall scheme of things.
Women are to have hair length within regulations, if they want to shave their head, they can. I don’t think most guys care one way or the other and leave it up to the ladies to do what they will with their hair.
Hair length is not a significant matter of equality.
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I knew it was coming, but I thought I was gonna cry when they lopped off over a foot of hair! I’d never seen my scalp before that day...
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As I recall, the original reason for the close buzzcut in Boot was for hygiene, made it easier to get rid of lice and similar problems. Note also the buzzcut was very quick (mine took about 10 seconds as I recall). As to the issue of females, I see no reason why they shouldn't have the same haircut - for the same reasons...
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I couldn't even imagine being a military barber having 200 plus males telling me how they want their hair cut. We'd be there for days instead of hours.
I had long hair past my butt when I first joined. It was such a pain keeping it up and maintaining military standards while being smoked by the DS. Don't even get me started with getting my brain bucket or gas mask on quickly and fitting properly.
I finally asked the DS for an appointment with a beautician to cut my hair. He asked me why so I undid my hair. I remember him yelling holy shit private that's a shit ton of hair. He had no clue what to do for me. He had to contact another female DS. We did end up finding some one to cut off my hair. I went from hair past my but to hair above my collar. I thought he was going to shit his pants when I came back to the barracks.
I had long hair past my butt when I first joined. It was such a pain keeping it up and maintaining military standards while being smoked by the DS. Don't even get me started with getting my brain bucket or gas mask on quickly and fitting properly.
I finally asked the DS for an appointment with a beautician to cut my hair. He asked me why so I undid my hair. I remember him yelling holy shit private that's a shit ton of hair. He had no clue what to do for me. He had to contact another female DS. We did end up finding some one to cut off my hair. I went from hair past my but to hair above my collar. I thought he was going to shit his pants when I came back to the barracks.
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I know Ranger School is different, if you go to ranger then bald head no matter if your male or female
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