Posted on Nov 3, 2013
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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?

"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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LTC Gene Shewbert
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I agree and support the regulation when it comes to saluting, but the truth is the salute is a time honored recognition between warriors.  It is rendered out of respect for each other and the tasks we are asked to perform.  We too often see saluting as some obligatory requirement to recognize rank.  Too often I heard Non-commissioned officers stating, "that LT is barely out of school, with my experience he should be saluting me."  When I have encountered this, I have always taken the position of your right...you have a great deal of experience and as the Trainer of Soldiers it is your responsibility to TRAIN that officer and bring him or her up to speed with their duties and skill sets....it isn't about rank...its about creating a survivable combat team.  Recognize the fact that every Soldier took an oath...put on their uniform and understands the responsibility....exchange the salute as kin warriors.
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LCDR William Wheeler
LCDR William Wheeler
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I recall as a LT (USN), prior enlisted, being 'called out' by a LCDR (1 grade senior) for not rendering salute. Common usage was to salute anyone 2 grades senior. I complied, of course; but had private discussion with the offended O-4. Thought it was petty at the time, my shipmates agreed. If that's all you have to worry about, you have not enough to do!
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SSgt Heather Capra
SSgt Heather Capra
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I think the "...it's about creating a survivable combat team..." is perfect.
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PO3 Terry Miller
PO3 Terry Miller
3 mo
I always saluted the rank; whether I knew the officer didn't matter. There were Chiefs I respected more than some officers but those officers' rank warranted a salute even if I had to wonder if the man had earned the status of being saluted.
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Capt Dennis Tague
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CPT Alfred Smiley - That 1st was wrong if he was telling you it was okay for your buddies to NOT salute you because you were prior enlisted. I was a MSgt before being commissioned, and that did not stop my enlisted friends from saluting me. Ever.
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When I was a young 2LT, back when the dinosaurs roamed the earth, my company commander was a 1LT. He was a great leader and a great mentor. I would have considered it disrespectful not to salute him. Less because of his rank, but more because of who he was and the position that he held. Should we feel any different about LTC's saluting COL's or BG's saluting MG's? Of course not. Each is entitled to a salute IAW military regulations and customs and courtesies. I would feel bad if I hadn't rendered a salute to that 1LT who helped me get to where I am today!
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I'll respect anyone that has the time and experience..
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LTC Jr Hutto
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SPC (Join to see) - Yes, son, but having been both and then some, if you've been in long enough to be a SP4, and you don't understand that an officer is an officer regardless of his rank, you've had some piss poor training or you have an attitude problem causing a lack of professionalism.
Long ago, probably even before you birth, I served with some truly outstanding soldiers who happened to have gotten caught up in the RIF after Vietnam. One, in particular, who became a very close friend and mentor, had been a Captain in SF with 3 tours only to get RIFed back to Sgt then made his way back to 1SG. (This guy was the only soldier I've ever known to have made it past SFC after being RIFed) He explained to me that he wasn't finished serving yet when he got RIFed, so he reinlisted, got grade comped to Sgt and went back to work at the profession he loved. That he had to salute officers who were much junior to him in his reserve rank, (CPT) and much, much more junior to him in experience both as enlisted and commissioned officer, was never an issue with him. He understood, the salute is a custom and as a professional soldier, he rendered those salutes when required, not because of the officer's rank or respect but because it's what professionals do. Simple as that.
When I was commissioned, 1SG J W Cook made it a point to be the first person I would salute in front of my retired MsGySgt father. He reluctantly took the traditional dollar coin I offered him more out of respect for me than anything else, then he gave me an 1849 $1 California Gold coin and told me he'd been given a pair of cufflinks by his father when he was commissioned in OCS and he'd "taken the liberty" to dismantle one of them in order to give me one of those coins to me because he'd never met anyone he felt worthy as me to have one. This coin which is my most prized possession to this day, 40 years later.
So, when you go to comparing your experience to some 'cruit Lieutenant, think about this story and how a salute is a professional soldier's priviledge both for the giver and receiver and both are obliged to give the most snappy salute possible. May you go far in your career.
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Sgt Ronald Paden
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So well said this is what it is all about it takes respect to get it. If you demand that others respect you as a condition you will never get it.
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LTC Director, Global Client Information Security
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Well said, MG (Join to see) . Well said, MG Bosse. Sir, I consider it a privilege to salute my commanding officers. I would not be here today if not for their mentorship or leadership lessons that they have taught me, that I'm working to pass down to our future army leaders.
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The other day I watched our Battalion CSM salute a brand new WO1 who had
just recently returned from WOCS. The WO1 looked surprised, embarrassed and
proud all at once and as for the CSM, he was doing what was right and
respectful and thought nothing else of it. It warmed my little NCO
heart. Be the example.<br>
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CW2 Ogs Program Support (Seta)
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Getting salutes after graduating WOCS was kind of eye opening, especially being enlisted for 15 years. Took some getting used to.
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PFC Dt Glenn
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Jump School Ft.Benning Ga 1973 ,Enlisted or Officer we all were considered equal it's the only time in the Army we weren't required to salute an Officer , several years ago i was walking with my wife across a parking lot when an Army Major climbed out of a car i started to throw up a salute , Major returned the salute seen the confused look on my face smiled and said " Old habits are hard to break " Yes Sir ....I had been out at least 25 years
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LTC Jr Hutto
LTC Jr Hutto
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PFC Dt Glenn - Was driving my car on a residential street a while back and I see this really old timer, probably WWII vet, riding a really old bicycle (with pedal brakes) and his right arm comes off the handle bar and moves up to his head and I'm thinking... what's he doing? Then his hand flattened out and formed a crisp hand salute and I'm thinking what's that for? Then I realized I had Ft Knox base sticker on my car with the officer's blue stripe. Too late, I'd already returned his salute, and I've been retired 15 years. Funny how that works.
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SPC Tobor Dabot
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"It warmed my little NCO heart." really wow didnt know NCO's had hearts *G*
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