Posted on Mar 6, 2014
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I believe that ALL Team Leaders should be NCOs. My Company has a plethora of Team Leaders that are E4 due to low numbers of Sergeants but most are kept at Specialist bar few exceptions where some are brought into the NCO Corps. I personally believe being a Corporal was a great experience. It brought me into the NCO Corps and kind of bridged the gap between Sergeant Team Leaders and myself. When I was a Specialist Team Leader I found myself in a very awkward position. A position where I could not hang out with other Specialists and Below because of wanting to seperate myself as a Leader but also found difficulty finding comraderie with Sergeants because I was not yet an NCO. After putting on the Stripes I found it easier to seek mentorship from other Team Leader peers because they were more willing to assist me as an NCO.<div><br></div><div>Part Two, I believe it helps validate your position as a Team Leader with your Soldiers when you are an NCO. I personally did not feel like I had an issue with this as a Specialist but I know there are some that it would make a difference for.&nbsp;<br><br>Overall, I believe E4's serving in a Skill Level Two slot should be an NCO. I know there are some that say, if you want to be an NCO get promoted but in my opinion if you are doing an NCO's job why not be an NCO if the Rank is there for just that reason.&nbsp;<br><br>Look forward to hearing peoples' different takes on this topic.</div>
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Yes, if you are in a leadership position with troops under you, you should be appointed as a Corporal. &nbsp;Aside from the excellent points you make it is also a motivator to those selected to fill leadership positions to better themselves and their Soldiers. &nbsp;It demonstrates that the Command recognizes their dedication and professionalism. &nbsp;
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SPC 11 C Indirect Fire A Infantryman
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Finally I lottery have been a team leader for a few months now and my quad leader and PSG wanted me to laterally promote and higher ups told me eat shit
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SSG Jason Hoadley
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<p>E-4 Team Leaders, </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If they have completed WLC and SSD along with a favorable board score, should have hard stripes.&nbsp; <br><br>But being someone that wore the rank of Corporal, do not be shocked or offended when you get tasked with "low level" NCO tasks&nbsp; SDNCO, UPL observer and such.. <br></p><p>I think it's way to seperate&nbsp;the team leader from the team.. &nbsp;<br></p>
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SGT Richard H.
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Agreed. My answer would also be yes, with the same caveat. WLC is a requirement to become a Sergeant...it should also be a requirement to be a Corporal, otherwise Corporal would become just an "OJT" rank. I don't necessarily feel that they should have to have gone to a Sergeant board, but a Company level board wouldn't be a bad idea.
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SGT Richard H. If I may make a small correction: by the regulation, WLC is NOT a requirement for SGT. It's a requirement for SSG. Units like to send E-4's to WLC because it's great leadership training and worth a lot of points, but it won't affect promotion otherwise.
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SGT Richard H.
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SGT (Join to see), you may, and thanks for doing so. I'm pretty sure it was a requirement in my time (late 80's/early 90's...it was PLDC then), and at the time, SSG required BNCOC as well, but things do change.
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SGT Horizontal Construction Engineer
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SGM Charles Brainard I agree with you wholeheartedly. Also, I have yet to meet an NCO who did not attend before/shortly after promotion. The problem with attending prior to a board appearance is I've seen more than a couple SPCs kicked back because they wanted to make room for the promotables.
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SGT Ben Keen
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I think you bring up some great points. &nbsp;I know when I was coming up the ranks, I was leading a team as a Specialist and I had the exact same feelings as you outlined as far as being stuck in this weird middle ground between "lower enlisted" and "NCO". &nbsp;Things got a lot better when I went through PLDC (now WLC) at Ft Campbell. &nbsp;
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