Posted on Apr 9, 2017
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Some officers are meant to command and lead, and others probably should never be allowed the opportunity. I'm a witness to the case of an ousted ex-commander now working as a staff-O "leading" a highly technical department - his lack of technical competence and inability to mentor and lead others is obvious. Should such an officer be "encouraged" to separate or retire early to make room?
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CPO Ronald Caron
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That's exactly why the ship repair and maintenance activities are such a shitshow right now. All these retired captains and admirals who fucked the Navy up through the 90s and 2000s retire and seem to be getting jobs running things having to do with fixing ships. Worse yet, they now are ruining the civilian workforce by trying to make it the way it was in the military and making it hard to fight back when they do it. Another 10 years when all of the technically competent people with experience either retire or get sick of it and move on, you will be left with just another expensive, rule laden bureaucracy that gets nothing done, but costs billions of dollars a year.
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MSG Charles Grove
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When I was promoted to E8 it was as a 63B50 not a 63Z50. This was fine with me because I wanted to stay in the maintenance, not a 1SGT. Worked out fine for the Army and myself. l.p.
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Sgt Charles Hinson
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In the marines, if an NCO or a officer lacks leadership skills, they’re gone
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Sgt Charles Hinson
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Nope
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SFC John Miskowiec
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This is such a stupid question. If a commander is relieved for cause their career is over. No need to be removed or resign. That is their option though.
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CSM Andrew Perrault
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Depends on what they did to get relieved. Up and out policy has sent many a good Soldier home both enlisted and officer. Time to re-evualate......
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SGT Johnny Owens
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Absolutely
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CW4 Craig Urban
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No
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SFC Dennis A.
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I think that it depends on why he/she was relieved of command. If they were relieved because the are a weak/poor leader, I'm sure there are jobs out there that they are very good at. If they were relieved for endangering their command, dishonesty, abuse or other things that are illegal, immoral or unethical they should be put out to pasture.
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SSG Thomas Gallegos
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Great points made. I don’t believe we will ever see an end to things like this. I also am in agreement that “Big Army” pushes and thus we get many NCOs and Officers who aren’t in the mold to lead or should have leadership positions.
I absolutely disagreed at least with one CSM who thought that you should be ready to step into a SSG role, when you were going to the SGT promotion board. I under the thinking behind it but to me you need to have time in your role going into. This is why we have classes and such and hopefully mentors that will help prepare you along the well.
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