Posted on Apr 19, 2016
Should beards be allowed in the Marine Corps?
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So, there is this connotation that beards are unprofessional. This may have been true at one point, but no one can really argue that this is true today: statistically, bearded men get paid more and are preferred for management. Now here is the issue: beards used to be common in the military, but now is the exception to the rule (as a religious factor- and that is only in the Army!) In other works, if you are Sikh and enlist in the USMC, good-bye facial hair- you are just like anyone else...
The entire purpose of the clean shave was to ensure you could get a good seal on your gas mask, which is why you look at history and see those glorious beards and mustaches. In the early 1900s, it was stated that this facial hair will kill you, because you cannot get a good seal on your gas mask... While recently (allegedly) it was proven (by the Army) to be a non-factor in getting a good seal- I cannot confirm nor deny that this happened- but it does beg the question: if facial hair is a non-issue as it pertains to warfare, then why is it an issue?
Although I approve of the current policy, I wonder- if an Army Sikh officer can get a good seal on a gas mask with a full beard, then why can't the rest of us? I mean, it's not exactly tradition to have a clean shave; just look at a list of the Commandants! So... is it really unprofessional to have a beard, or is it a matter of being hard to regulate? And if it is it a matter of regulation, is it simply a lack of empathy on the subject? Keep in mind I don't care either way; I will maintain a clean shave because I look weird if I don't, but when you cut out tradition, and history, and practicality... It just doesn't make sense. Your thoughts, ladies and gents...
The entire purpose of the clean shave was to ensure you could get a good seal on your gas mask, which is why you look at history and see those glorious beards and mustaches. In the early 1900s, it was stated that this facial hair will kill you, because you cannot get a good seal on your gas mask... While recently (allegedly) it was proven (by the Army) to be a non-factor in getting a good seal- I cannot confirm nor deny that this happened- but it does beg the question: if facial hair is a non-issue as it pertains to warfare, then why is it an issue?
Although I approve of the current policy, I wonder- if an Army Sikh officer can get a good seal on a gas mask with a full beard, then why can't the rest of us? I mean, it's not exactly tradition to have a clean shave; just look at a list of the Commandants! So... is it really unprofessional to have a beard, or is it a matter of being hard to regulate? And if it is it a matter of regulation, is it simply a lack of empathy on the subject? Keep in mind I don't care either way; I will maintain a clean shave because I look weird if I don't, but when you cut out tradition, and history, and practicality... It just doesn't make sense. Your thoughts, ladies and gents...
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the only reason the US Military started the short hair thing was for lice control in WWI - if you go to history warriors never cut their hair 'cause it was a symbol of their virility ( see Samson) the only people that had short hair were slaves (no virility)
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Traditionally, beards were for the Navy and mustaches were for the Marine Corps. A practical reason for no beards is cleanliness in the field. In my company in Vietnam, we shaved every day to avoid getting gook sores. Also, why give the bad guy something else to grab onto while you are killing him?
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Pvt Kenneth Mayberry
Also Sir that was true when I enlisted in corps 21 years ago and there were no beards allowed but seen some of the Officers and a few non coms on base with nicely trimmed beards Sir.
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I wrote some detailed thoughts on this topic here:
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/do-you-believe-we-should-be-allowed-to-grow-beards-in-a-deployed-environment
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/do-you-believe-we-should-be-allowed-to-grow-beards-in-a-deployed-environment
Do you believe we should be allowed to grow beards in a deployed environment? | RallyPoint
So, just something I thought would be an interesting topic. Both funny and to see what people really have to say about it. But seriously, combat beards are awesome. Everyone's thoughts? Serious or not it's all welcome. http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/04/pentagon-study-finds-beards-directly-proportional-to-combat-effectiveness/
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Capt Richard I P.
Sgt Richard Buckner I'd be happy to dsicuss any specific disagreements you have in context on the thread I linked to.
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Given I'm female, I don't have a preference on facial hair. If it's within regulations, I think you should be able to don anything you want; beard, mustache, goatee, etc. I read the article about that Army officer and if he's able to get a good seal with the hair he has on his face, then that proves it right there. While I understand uniformity in the military, but it wasn't like that in the beginning.
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PO1 (Join to see)
Meh, it wouldn't go well with my current hair color. Thank you for the compliment! I wouldn't be surprised if you could get away with daisy dukes and onesies!
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