Posted on Apr 19, 2016
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So, there is this connotation that beards are unprofessional. This may have been true at one point, but no one can really argue that this is true today: statistically, bearded men get paid more and are preferred for management. Now here is the issue: beards used to be common in the military, but now is the exception to the rule (as a religious factor- and that is only in the Army!) In other works, if you are Sikh and enlist in the USMC, good-bye facial hair- you are just like anyone else...

The entire purpose of the clean shave was to ensure you could get a good seal on your gas mask, which is why you look at history and see those glorious beards and mustaches. In the early 1900s, it was stated that this facial hair will kill you, because you cannot get a good seal on your gas mask... While recently (allegedly) it was proven (by the Army) to be a non-factor in getting a good seal- I cannot confirm nor deny that this happened- but it does beg the question: if facial hair is a non-issue as it pertains to warfare, then why is it an issue?

Although I approve of the current policy, I wonder- if an Army Sikh officer can get a good seal on a gas mask with a full beard, then why can't the rest of us? I mean, it's not exactly tradition to have a clean shave; just look at a list of the Commandants! So... is it really unprofessional to have a beard, or is it a matter of being hard to regulate? And if it is it a matter of regulation, is it simply a lack of empathy on the subject? Keep in mind I don't care either way; I will maintain a clean shave because I look weird if I don't, but when you cut out tradition, and history, and practicality... It just doesn't make sense. Your thoughts, ladies and gents...
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SgtMaj Glenn Woods
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Won't even waste my breath!
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SFC Jerry Florey
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I was in the Chem Corp trained pvts at Ft McClellan and other soldiers while in the Army and I stay with clean shaven gives you a better seal.
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Cpl Christopher Hancock
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They can't get a good deal, guaranteed! I have done many fit tests for SCBA's, and I'll tell you, if you have facial hair that extends to the seal of your mask, your mask will not seal, period, end of story. If you're in a situation relying on you gas mask to live, you will die!
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CSM Lynn Chrisman
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No
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SSgt Danny Holland
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No beards!!
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Sgt David Brose
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No beards
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Sgt James Breslin
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Marines are, I believe set apart from other branches of the military. Hope it doesn’t happen here. SEMPER FI
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CPL Freddy Travaglia
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clean shave for me.
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SSgt Utilities Chief
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Dang, I posted this 2 years ago and now my notifications are blowing up... Well done, RP.
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GySgt Engineer Equipment Chief
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That is not the whole definition. Try again.

u·ni·form
ˈyo͞onəˌfôrm/Submit
adjective
1.
not changing in form or character; remaining the same in all cases and at all times.
"blocks of stone of uniform size"
synonyms: constant, consistent, steady, invariable, unvarying, unfluctuating, unchanging, stable, static, regular, fixed, even, equal More
2.
denoting a garment forming part of a person's uniform.
"black uniform jackets"
noun
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the distinctive clothing worn by members of the same organization or body or by children attending certain schools.
"airline pilots in dark blue uniforms"
synonyms: costume, livery, regalia, suit, ensemble, outfit; More
2.
a code word representing the letter U, used in radio communication.
verb
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make uniform.
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