Posted on Apr 19, 2016
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So, there is this connotation that beards are unprofessional. This may have been true at one point, but no one can really argue that this is true today: statistically, bearded men get paid more and are preferred for management. Now here is the issue: beards used to be common in the military, but now is the exception to the rule (as a religious factor- and that is only in the Army!) In other works, if you are Sikh and enlist in the USMC, good-bye facial hair- you are just like anyone else...

The entire purpose of the clean shave was to ensure you could get a good seal on your gas mask, which is why you look at history and see those glorious beards and mustaches. In the early 1900s, it was stated that this facial hair will kill you, because you cannot get a good seal on your gas mask... While recently (allegedly) it was proven (by the Army) to be a non-factor in getting a good seal- I cannot confirm nor deny that this happened- but it does beg the question: if facial hair is a non-issue as it pertains to warfare, then why is it an issue?

Although I approve of the current policy, I wonder- if an Army Sikh officer can get a good seal on a gas mask with a full beard, then why can't the rest of us? I mean, it's not exactly tradition to have a clean shave; just look at a list of the Commandants! So... is it really unprofessional to have a beard, or is it a matter of being hard to regulate? And if it is it a matter of regulation, is it simply a lack of empathy on the subject? Keep in mind I don't care either way; I will maintain a clean shave because I look weird if I don't, but when you cut out tradition, and history, and practicality... It just doesn't make sense. Your thoughts, ladies and gents...
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1LT William Clardy
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I see no reason why Marines should not be allowed to grow beards as long as their facial hair remains shorter than the hair on their scalp...
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MSG Loren Tomblin
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LMAO
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1LT William Clardy
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I know I'm coming late to the party, but for some reason this is making me visualize a Marine Corps Mullet: high cut tight, low left long...
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SGT Reginald Tyler
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A lot of black men deal with ingrown hairs because of our skin, I went thru two years of testing at the dermatology clinic in Germany before I received a permanent shaving profile, this became an issue because people felt I should have to shave for some the same reasons you stated. I never had a problem completing and and all task I need to , range, nbc training ( to include wearing your gear for six hours in any Temperature) Some commander’s had a problem with it and stopped my promotion just based on that, but never had a problem with my job performance. I completed 26 years Army and this was the negative thing they held against me. You take a soldier for the soldiers they are and do not just judge just based on their appearance. I went as far as a E-5 running a Battalion S-4 and holding down an E-7 Supply Sergeant spot in Korea. But because I had a beard ( well groomed) I could not get promoted. Also never had any UCMJ actions taken against me just stood my ground and knew what AR-670-1 said.
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PVT Infantryman
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It should stay the same.
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SP5 Gary Smith
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Beards attract dirt, fleas and homos.
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PO2 Tony Divito
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Master Gunnery Sgt. Leland Diamond had a beard. WW1, Inter-War Shanghai, & WW2 Guadalcanal. Constantly went AWOL from the hospital to rejoin his unit. He didn't give a crap about uniform regs but was always iching for a fight. He was 52 in Guadalcanal.
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PFC Kenneth Anderson
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I could care less, What them Damn Jarheads Do!
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PO3 Jerry Armstrong
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Beards were allowed in the U.S. Navy until 1984 for Petty Officers and higher ranks.
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SGT Larry Reed
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I agree with all you have said. I believe Navy Seals are professional some have beards.
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GySgt Lawrence OSullivan
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No Beards unless you are on a spec ops mission where you need it to assimilate into your surroundings.
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