Posted on Apr 19, 2016
Should beards be allowed in the Marine Corps?
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So, there is this connotation that beards are unprofessional. This may have been true at one point, but no one can really argue that this is true today: statistically, bearded men get paid more and are preferred for management. Now here is the issue: beards used to be common in the military, but now is the exception to the rule (as a religious factor- and that is only in the Army!) In other works, if you are Sikh and enlist in the USMC, good-bye facial hair- you are just like anyone else...
The entire purpose of the clean shave was to ensure you could get a good seal on your gas mask, which is why you look at history and see those glorious beards and mustaches. In the early 1900s, it was stated that this facial hair will kill you, because you cannot get a good seal on your gas mask... While recently (allegedly) it was proven (by the Army) to be a non-factor in getting a good seal- I cannot confirm nor deny that this happened- but it does beg the question: if facial hair is a non-issue as it pertains to warfare, then why is it an issue?
Although I approve of the current policy, I wonder- if an Army Sikh officer can get a good seal on a gas mask with a full beard, then why can't the rest of us? I mean, it's not exactly tradition to have a clean shave; just look at a list of the Commandants! So... is it really unprofessional to have a beard, or is it a matter of being hard to regulate? And if it is it a matter of regulation, is it simply a lack of empathy on the subject? Keep in mind I don't care either way; I will maintain a clean shave because I look weird if I don't, but when you cut out tradition, and history, and practicality... It just doesn't make sense. Your thoughts, ladies and gents...
The entire purpose of the clean shave was to ensure you could get a good seal on your gas mask, which is why you look at history and see those glorious beards and mustaches. In the early 1900s, it was stated that this facial hair will kill you, because you cannot get a good seal on your gas mask... While recently (allegedly) it was proven (by the Army) to be a non-factor in getting a good seal- I cannot confirm nor deny that this happened- but it does beg the question: if facial hair is a non-issue as it pertains to warfare, then why is it an issue?
Although I approve of the current policy, I wonder- if an Army Sikh officer can get a good seal on a gas mask with a full beard, then why can't the rest of us? I mean, it's not exactly tradition to have a clean shave; just look at a list of the Commandants! So... is it really unprofessional to have a beard, or is it a matter of being hard to regulate? And if it is it a matter of regulation, is it simply a lack of empathy on the subject? Keep in mind I don't care either way; I will maintain a clean shave because I look weird if I don't, but when you cut out tradition, and history, and practicality... It just doesn't make sense. Your thoughts, ladies and gents...
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My knee-jerk reaction is No. I knew many NCOs who shaved off their mustaches for their DoD photos for fear they would look out of regs and count against them for new jobs or promotions. Now imagine the regulations that would cover full facial hair.
Regulations have changed regarding certain tattoos.
I think it should be rank specific, something that is earned with time in service.
Regulations have changed regarding certain tattoos.
I think it should be rank specific, something that is earned with time in service.
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I can't believe a Marine wrote this. I am an engineer, mechanical. I can guarantee you, in the presence of a wiry matter between two sealing surfaces will be the high propensity for leakage. When poisonous gas is the fluid being sealed out, the risk is too high and I don't give a damn what an Army test showed. Besides that, tradition is enough. Square away!!!
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My opinion, no beards in any US Service, my experience that men change mannerisms, with long hair or beards, they go from TEAM work , to me and mine .
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Unless it is tactically neccessary, beards should not be allowed, period.
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Absolutely not. Beards have been shown to contain feces, bacteria and fungi.
It is not hygienic at all. Same reason long hair is not permitted.
It is not hygienic at all. Same reason long hair is not permitted.
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Beards are and remain to be unprofessional. Add to this that a warfighter with a beard reduces his survivability in the event chemical weapons are employed as to date there is no gas mask that seals with a beard on. There are efforts to create and test one that seals to the neck rather than the traditional method but so far no go.
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Beards are unprofessional in their appearance period. They do NOT look good in a uniform. Why allow the most elite fighting force on the planet to be further sullied and less respected?
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No they should not and you can NOT get a good seal.( 30 years of fighting fires in Detroit) with a beard.
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