Posted on Apr 19, 2016
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So, there is this connotation that beards are unprofessional. This may have been true at one point, but no one can really argue that this is true today: statistically, bearded men get paid more and are preferred for management. Now here is the issue: beards used to be common in the military, but now is the exception to the rule (as a religious factor- and that is only in the Army!) In other works, if you are Sikh and enlist in the USMC, good-bye facial hair- you are just like anyone else...

The entire purpose of the clean shave was to ensure you could get a good seal on your gas mask, which is why you look at history and see those glorious beards and mustaches. In the early 1900s, it was stated that this facial hair will kill you, because you cannot get a good seal on your gas mask... While recently (allegedly) it was proven (by the Army) to be a non-factor in getting a good seal- I cannot confirm nor deny that this happened- but it does beg the question: if facial hair is a non-issue as it pertains to warfare, then why is it an issue?

Although I approve of the current policy, I wonder- if an Army Sikh officer can get a good seal on a gas mask with a full beard, then why can't the rest of us? I mean, it's not exactly tradition to have a clean shave; just look at a list of the Commandants! So... is it really unprofessional to have a beard, or is it a matter of being hard to regulate? And if it is it a matter of regulation, is it simply a lack of empathy on the subject? Keep in mind I don't care either way; I will maintain a clean shave because I look weird if I don't, but when you cut out tradition, and history, and practicality... It just doesn't make sense. Your thoughts, ladies and gents...
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PO3 Engineman
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There is nothing wrong with beards as long as they look nice and the gas mask thing is bullshit
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PO2 Nasser Montes
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Back in 1985, when I was in “A” School for my machinist mate’s training, we were going over OXYGEN BREATHING APPARATUS (OBA) which we used to fight fire on board ship. Our instructor was a Navy Veteran who served during Vietnam Era into the late 1970s. This is important because he was part of the Navy that brought back beards. The beards he told us were supposed to be a certain length, no more than 1/2 an inch and thickness that covered the face “neatly and smartly”. The beard should not interfere with any safety equipment that needed to be worn on the face, like the OBA.

Now the instructor mentioned that the face mask on the OBA, was supposed to give a tight seal on your face.

When a fire broke on deck of his ship, he donned his OBA to fight the fire. While the mask sat snuggly on his face it was wasn’t tight because of his beard. This caused his to intake smoke when trying to fight the fire. He ended up in the hospital for two weeks.

He said it was his incident and many others who could get a tight seal on their OBA masks that made the Navy reassess their beard policy, only allowing those to wear a beard if they get medical clearance.
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SGT Tj Casiano
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The only people who should be able to have beards are Special Forces, and human intelligence gatherers, and I should only be if they are deploying, or getting ready to deploy.
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Cpl Telephone Systems/PersonalComputer Intermediate Repairer
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Beards would be nice, shaving is a pain
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SGT Tomas "Huey" Husted
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Beside the protective seal ( which was the indoctrination I received), I believe uniformity may be an issue, that and the self-disiplin of hygiene.
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SPC Jeffrey Stone
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The ARMY is stupid to allow special head gear and beards. This PC crap needs to end.
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SSG Squad Leader
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Bring back the beard!!!
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Picture from 1834 of marine with beard
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SGT Motor Transport Operator
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The no bears policy is relatively new,
Civil war had beards
Spanish American war had beards
War of 1812 had beards
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