Posted on Jan 9, 2016
Should classes and proficiency licensure be required for firearms ownership?
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I recently heard an interview with a congressman regarding "common sense" gun-violence laws. They suggested we should require training and proficiency certification, and more extensive background checks prior to allowing people to possess firearms. After all, they argued, we require training, and a test to drive a car? Here's my question: If we're going down this road, why do we entrust any idiot to bear and raise a child with no training, proficiency testing, or background checks?
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No.
However, I do favor requiring both firearms safety courses and gun ownership, as sub-minimal requirements in the revitalization of the Constitutional Militia in each State.
However, I do favor requiring both firearms safety courses and gun ownership, as sub-minimal requirements in the revitalization of the Constitutional Militia in each State.
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SGT David Taylor
The militia is already defined by federal law.
10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes
Current through Pub. L. 112-123. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
FYI. Section 313 of title 32 expands the age for persons who have served in the military. "Under 64 years of age and a former member of the Regular Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, or Regular Marine Corps."
10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes
Current through Pub. L. 112-123. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
FYI. Section 313 of title 32 expands the age for persons who have served in the military. "Under 64 years of age and a former member of the Regular Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, or Regular Marine Corps."
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
I am familiar with this statute; it is Constitutionally incorrect.
Laws ought to mean what they meant when they were written; the statutory definition of the Militia does not fit the meaning of Militia when the Constitution was written.
Laws ought to mean what they meant when they were written; the statutory definition of the Militia does not fit the meaning of Militia when the Constitution was written.
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No. It's a Constitution issue for me. I would not tell any Citizen that they may not at a moments notice bear arms in their defense or in defense of the Nation.
They should be highly encouraged to seek out training and certification. Some organizations do free training for women and the elderly, some offer discounts to military families.
They should be highly encouraged to seek out training and certification. Some organizations do free training for women and the elderly, some offer discounts to military families.
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What is proficient? How many background checks do we demand for criminals?
Let's use the car example. When somebody is killed in a car crash do we demand that cars be banned? Why not? More people are killed every year in MVA than guns?
Let's use the car example. When somebody is killed in a car crash do we demand that cars be banned? Why not? More people are killed every year in MVA than guns?
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That is none of Federal Government Business! If the states constitution disagree with that? That too is not state's business!
Proficiency and training is a personal responsibilities. Let that stay as it is.
Proficiency and training is a personal responsibilities. Let that stay as it is.
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As far as I'm concerned, we should make age appropriate Firearms Safety and child rearing classes a requirement for grades k-3, 6-8, and high school. Basic proficiency classes for both should be available at high school and junior college level.
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Many years ago, this same proposal was conceived by a few people, some within the NRA,or at least, with ties and membership with the NRA. The Democrats and Liberals squashed the thought because they would not be able to control the training and requirements. It was supposed to be very similar to a drivers license, where you did not necessarily own a firearm, but was allowed to own one. It would have done away with the federal requirement of firearms registration and left it to the states if they deemed it so. Later, the Dems and Libs brought out their version which is very similar to the crap that is going on now, not unlike what happened in Germany in the late 1930s. So my answer is a resounding NO. Since common sense is not involved and the fact that the 2nd is a Right, not a privilege like driving.
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I think that it never hurts to have refresher training to maintain good safety.
It was a normal occurrence during my military career
It was a normal occurrence during my military career
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The government should not be in the business of setting requirements (infringements) on our right to keep and bear arms.
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If the people have never taken a hunter's safety class or been train in weapons by the military or police, yep.
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