Posted on Dec 5, 2013
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I've recently had a conversation with people in my unit about the PT uniform.  I wonder if it would work to regulate the PT Uniform where it was customizable to the SM's needs, rather than just having a "full summer PTs" and a "full Winter PTs."  I realize the purpose of Uniformity when standing in a formation, but each SM has different needs once the actual physical fitness training begins.  Should you be allowed to downgrade as you see fit?
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I say no we should not mix and match uniforms because it looks horrible and it does not look like a you are a team. Even though that is my personal view, old soldier ways. I had a 1SG that implemented that idea for PT and it shocked me that he allowed that. So when in Rome.... I just feel like when certain things began to get out of order, other things will follow. That falls with discipline.

I feel like i'm going to pass out wearing my gas mask, I feel tired when I have to be at work at 0530, I wanna stop when we go for long "A" runs, boots swell my feet, I wanna take my ACU shirt off when it hot ( Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia), the beret given me headaches... These are all things we have to do and can get altered due to my needs. But if it is truly not putting me in harms way, why not continue tradition and train soldiers to be discipline.

Every thing is blamed on the NCO because the soldier falls short. I believe it is because we continue to let tradition die to accommodate comfort, discipline is the main tradition.

I'll stop I was about get on my old wooden soap box, just old soldier ways and up bringing. But it worked lol.

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SFC Russell,

I hear all the time how "PT is an individual responsibility," and that you have to keep yourself healthy. I even had an NCO tell me that on any given day if I couldn't complete the PT regimen that I needed to go to sick call...

So at what point can I say that policies and practices are causing me harm? Only after I get frostbite, or pass out from a heat stroke? Only after I go on profile because my knees are jacked up from running in my boots?

Sure, not every Soldier is wise enough to make these decisions for himself, but it seems there needs to be some way of allowing a Soldier to take responsibility for his own physical well being...
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FYI, "Recommendation" straight from the PRT manual.
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SPC Christopher Morehouse
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During PT, yes. It only makes sense (perhaps at the discretion of your squad leader, since lets be honest, soldiers can be idiots). All other times, no. Thats why it's a 'uniform'.
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Yes, I recognize that some soldiers can be real idiots... But what about something like the UPS uniform... There's no mistaking that those guys are with UPS, but there's some flexibility (e.g. shorts or pants) so you can dress as you see fit (within the policy)
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SPC Christopher Morehouse
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That’s true, but there is more to a military uniform than just being able to recognize "hey that guys in the army". I agree for physical training there should be some flexibility, but that’s it. Any other situation and there should still be rigid guidelines. Besides, it is the army after all. It’s not like having to wear pants when you want to wear shorts is the worst thing you’ll have to endure. Heck, if it is, you’re having a pretty good day.
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