Posted on Dec 5, 2013
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I've recently had a conversation with people in my unit about the PT uniform.  I wonder if it would work to regulate the PT Uniform where it was customizable to the SM's needs, rather than just having a "full summer PTs" and a "full Winter PTs."  I realize the purpose of Uniformity when standing in a formation, but each SM has different needs once the actual physical fitness training begins.  Should you be allowed to downgrade as you see fit?
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SGT Bde Religious Affairs Nco
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DA Pam 670-1, para 10-11e: "There are no restrictions on the
combination of APFU items worn, unless the commander has prescribed a particular combination for formation."
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SSG Robert Pierce
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As a former Platoon Sergeant, I would allow my Solders to downgrade but we all had to downgrade. If one didn't want to then nobody downgraded. The only other time I've seen it authorized during a APFT?
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SPC Jessica Stewart
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I would have to say no. The unit command sets the uniform for PT and it should be followed by everyone. If someone is unable to physically accommodate that uniform then they need a profile exempting them from it. It is a uniform, the same across the board, and if they are able they should adapt and overcome. If they don't want to get a profile to not have to follow it then they shouldn't complain either.
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but per the regs it is customizable, if you want your soldiers to all look the same, all you have to do is put out the uniform you want them to wear
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Right that's what I meant. The command sets the uniform for PT because it is customizable. If the command does set the uniform then everyone should be expected to follow it throughout the PT that day unless they have a profile stating otherwise.

Now, if it's PT on your own and you aren't given a specific uniform then sure, customize at will as long as it is within regulations.
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Put this same logic against the duty uniform for the day. If the uniform is ACU's, you would be saying that one person is not allowed to wear cold weather gear because someone else is not cold.
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SSG Marvin Vick
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personally if you wear them mix and match it is no longer a uniform..........it's a bunch of clothes...uniform means alike, same as, distinctive or a stylized dress. remember as military warriors WE are different.....perhaps the civilians would mix and match and think nothing of it...but we with us , the world is watching we are better than the rest....we can even do it in the front leaning rest.........alright  now you got me started!!!! 
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SSG Marvin Vick

You say the definition of uniform includes "distinctive or a stylized dress". I say that all wearing the same colors/patterns constitutes both distinctive AND a stylized dress... regardless if one Soldier is wearing shorts and a SS shirt and the other is in full Winters...
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I have a lot of trouble with my extremities getting cold (colder, that is, than you would expect), so there are often days in the fall and spring that everyone else wants to be in shorts and a t-shirt, but I need to have hat and gloves on to prevent myself from getting too cold... 

What should we do?  Make everyone wear their hat and gloves because SGT O is cold?  Risk SGT O's health by making him take his off?

Why do we all have to be EXACTLY the same?  Couldn't they just write the regulation so that any combination of the prescribed parts is acceptable?

What if I know I will be better off in the Long sleeves and shorts, but someone else would do better in the short sleeves and pants?
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