Posted on Apr 10, 2016
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Ok here is the situation: I am running a 11B ALC course and we got 5 soldiers attached to us from the finance BN and 2 of them are females. They have to rotate shifts for ammo guard. Since we are about to have the first female in the infantry is it wrong to have 1 female and 1 male do ammo guard.
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Gender roles shouldn't be an issue in the military. I just learned this recently during an FTX when we had a simulated KIA that I had to fireman's carry out of the woods. I asked the female "permission to touch?" because I had to position myself to lift her up and an Senior NCO overheard me who said "just do it, she's a soldier!"
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CPL Dcgs A System Administrator | Contractor
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IMHO - equality should be about seeing males and females as the same, from all aspects. Let them serve and support as equals.

IF there happens to be a problem, it should not be one that all people of that gender should be punished for equally, that would violate the ethics inherent in equality and invalidate the exercise in the first place. The problem should be handled at the lowest level possible and a punishment should be served that only affects the violators.
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SSG Leroy Farmer
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Fair question. We are talking about a controlled area in garrison. There shouldn't be any reason a female couldn't perform the duties. As for the male and female performing the duty as a team, they are in an advanced NCOES. If they cannot behave like professional soldiers, it's better to be discovered now rather than when they get that extra rocker.
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SFC Clark Adams
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They are Soldiers, Guard Duty is a basic task for every Soldier let them perform their duties!!
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Sgt Jason Walsh
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The more important question is, "Do the soldiers in your 11B ALC course have morals and values that they take seriously. I served over 10 years, Active Duty Marine Corps. We never stopped stressing the value and importance of leadership traits and core values. Bottom line is that leadership needs to reinforce that the United States Military as a whole is a PROFESSIONAL institution. Male or Female makes no difference. All must be professional at all times. Integrity and sound judgement is a must. If your soldiers dont take that seriously the answer is yes, it would be wrong to have a male and female do ammo guard. Simply because you cant trust them. Challenge them. Tell them you shouldn't be putting them on ammo guard together, however your giving them an opportunity to earn trust and show their leadership ability. Leave it up to them to prove you wrong. Better to expose strengths and weaknesses now in a training environment rather than in theater

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SSG(P) Ell Pizarek
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While I served a period of time as an 11BP, I an strongly against females in the infantry. This boat has already sailed and life moves on. With the integration, I believe that once you build the duty or guard roster, you follow it and the names land where they be. Anything else would be counter productive to the integration. Not to be blind, the SOG needs to make his rounds at alternating times to keep everyone on their toes.
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LTC Lewis Cox
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I guarantee you she can pull a trigger all by herself! Let the young lady have at it!
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SFC Donald York
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Sir, of course she can pull a trigger, but can she manage to carry LBE equal to her own body weight without complaint? I seriously doubt it.
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LTC Lewis Cox
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Some can and some can't........JUST LIKE THE GUYS!!!
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SSG Dale London
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Edited 10 y ago
Nope. If you can move and you can shoot you can guard. If you can't move or shoot, what are you doing in uniform? And as for a mixed guard -- if you can't control yourself the same question applies.
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LTC Chief, Relocation Plans
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No issues. Frankly, I've found that male-female battle buddies are a safer alternative than two females. If assault is an issue in your area, two women aren't going to be a deterrent.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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Nope. Put them in the guard shift rotation. Equal treatment also means equal sharing of the crap details.
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