Posted on Apr 10, 2016
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Ok here is the situation: I am running a 11B ALC course and we got 5 soldiers attached to us from the finance BN and 2 of them are females. They have to rotate shifts for ammo guard. Since we are about to have the first female in the infantry is it wrong to have 1 female and 1 male do ammo guard.
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SFC Sams, as a female AMMO troop in the Air Force as I have completed guard duty of the ASP, as a SECFOR augmentee, and while attached to the Army during training at FT Polk and during my advisor mission in AFG, all times alone with one or more males and separated from others. Men and woman are alone all of the time without incident and yet you're obviously only worried about SHARP issues not performance. The real problem that should be addressed is the fear of retaliation from leadership for treating your Soldiers like adults The adults that signed up to serve their country and not holding them responsible for their actions.
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I have felt for a long time that the whole gender separation issue was causing more harm than good. How can you have unit cohesion if a portion was treated differently, and always segregated? It has been my opinion that in the field, or even in garrison during annual training, the males and females should be in the same sleeping bays. It promotes comradory (sp) and encourages the unit to work as one. If the Army keeps seeing soldiers with the distinction of male and female, instead of just Soldiers, then the sexes will never be seen as equals by the rank and file. Treat everyone the same and they will BE the same: U.S.ARMY SOLDIERS.
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MSgt J D McKee
MSgt J D McKee
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Showers, toilets, barracks, everything equal. Just like Starship Troopers. Anyone can't handle it, let them find a new profession. Not kidding.
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SFC Donald York
SFC Donald York
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You and i both know that will not happen. Not in my life time anyway.
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Sgt Den OBrien
Sgt Den OBrien
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I don't see an issue with the guard duty task. I think that when the "duty rack" assignments are posted there may be a problem though.
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PO2 Joan Feledy
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The only thing to be considered is, that the person is equipped and/or qualified to do the job.
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SGT Jayson Anderson
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If the two soldier want to mess up their carriers by being unprofessional while on duty then let then. Sort them out. They should be weeded out and replaced with soldiers that can keep their genitals to themselves. This isn't college and we are not here to hook up.
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CW3 Stephen Mills
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Its guard duty, regardless of what someone might think about females in the military and being able to be in all the same units as males; soldiers of both sexes have been pulling duty, to include guard duty together for ages. Don't create a problem where one has never been before. Make a DA6 and give them their turn as it comes up. MP's have had unisex partners on gate and/or guard duty for decades.
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SSG Multichannel Transmission Systems Operator/Maintainer
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SFC, I know its a whole new world for you folks with the blue braid; however, the rest of us have been doing this for decades, and I caveat this comment with knowledge that I am opening a whole other can of worms, but in today's army it is just as likely that you will have to deal with same gender inappropriate relations on guard duty as mixed gender. Therefore, it really doesn't matter. A morally flawed soldier is a the same no matter the biological gender and will fail to follow their Warrior Ethos and Army Values as a matter of course regardless of gender. The best you can do is run your guard roster appropriately and let the chips fall where they may. Delegate, hold your Sergents' of the guard accountable, and sleep easy. Good luck at the range!
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Capt Renee Ullrich
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no it is not wrong and would be the fair thing to do. everyone needs to understand their responsibility. I was an MP and we all did our turn at guard duty.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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Ten years ago I would work over night shifts with a female and ten years later they are some of my closest friends. What concerns me today the ease of want constitutes a SHARP complaint. I treat female soldiers the same and have butted heads with many. Today with word against word, that argument for the sake of winning could become a SHARP complaint. We must get better at evaluating SHARP complaints and not being so quick to ruin a soldier. I would feel uncomfortable today being alone in a guard shack with a female where as ten years ago ok with it.
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MSG Leslie Clark Ramsbacher
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No it shouldn't, in other MOS training if you need them to work together and be professional they do. They are professional and adults they will need to learn how to work as a team.
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SSG Daniel Deiler
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If we're transforming into a force that allows for females to serve in traditionally male MOS's, then absolutely not. We are all Soldiers when we don our uniforms. Gender goes out the window; especially in light of the fact that despite anybody's personal feelings, we serve alongside those that are transgender.
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LTC Lewis Cox
LTC Lewis Cox
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WELL SAID!
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