Posted on Apr 19, 2016
Should government charge a $1000 fee for people to protest?
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Should all journalists register with the government before writing?
If the answer is no, why would it be ok to do the same with Guns? I'm not a gun owner and probably never be one but I'm a firm believer of the constitution.
Many states and local governments have or are imposing taxes on legal gun ownership.
http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/cnmi-news/local/85286-new-gun-control-law-imposes-1-000-excise-tax-on-pistols
What are your thoughts?
If the answer is no, why would it be ok to do the same with Guns? I'm not a gun owner and probably never be one but I'm a firm believer of the constitution.
Many states and local governments have or are imposing taxes on legal gun ownership.
http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/cnmi-news/local/85286-new-gun-control-law-imposes-1-000-excise-tax-on-pistols
What are your thoughts?
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Sir,
these two are not comparable. A journalist and their written works do not kill people. they may at times ruin a reputation or bring down a corrupt official but death is not the outcome. A gun has one purpose to kill someone or something. I have no problem with making legal gun owners register with the Federal and/or state governments to make sure that all proper paperwork and training is completed. that seems to be a good compromise between public safety and the 2nd amendment.
these two are not comparable. A journalist and their written works do not kill people. they may at times ruin a reputation or bring down a corrupt official but death is not the outcome. A gun has one purpose to kill someone or something. I have no problem with making legal gun owners register with the Federal and/or state governments to make sure that all proper paperwork and training is completed. that seems to be a good compromise between public safety and the 2nd amendment.
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SFC (Join to see)
"You know what the Englishman's idea of compromise is? He says, Some people say there is a God. Some people say there is no God. The truth probably lies somewhere between these two statements." - William Butler Yeats
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CDR Jon Corrigan
The 'problem' isn't with legal firearms owners. The problem is they're the only ones following the law. What type of message does it send to the law-abiding when our President commutes the sentences of 61 drug dealers (last month), and 12 of them had been not just charged, but convicted, of a firearms offense? As for me, I'll stick with buying what I want via private sales, legal in my state, and avoid all the extraneous BS.
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CDR Jon Corrigan
Sir,
you are correct that there are criminals out there that are not obeying the law and getting firearms anyway. but if the past few years have shown us anything is that our legal gun purchasing process is horribly flawed. people who are disturbed and dangerous are able to obtain firearms and go wreck havoc. so too me, my personal opinion, it seems it is the public's best interest to scale up the difficulty of obtain a legal firearm. to scale up the requirements of concealed carry licenses. to repair any loopholes in the gun purchasing industry that allows people to get firearms with out what ever entity we create to be aware of said purchase. I hear, a lot, that many people believe that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I have yet to see that be true.
Sir,
you are correct that there are criminals out there that are not obeying the law and getting firearms anyway. but if the past few years have shown us anything is that our legal gun purchasing process is horribly flawed. people who are disturbed and dangerous are able to obtain firearms and go wreck havoc. so too me, my personal opinion, it seems it is the public's best interest to scale up the difficulty of obtain a legal firearm. to scale up the requirements of concealed carry licenses. to repair any loopholes in the gun purchasing industry that allows people to get firearms with out what ever entity we create to be aware of said purchase. I hear, a lot, that many people believe that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I have yet to see that be true.
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CDR Jon Corrigan
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For the 225 years my state has been in the Union, we've never required a permit to carry concealed. Any resident, 16 and older, can exercise that right. Listening to the Chuckie Schumers, Mikey Bloombergs and others, one would be inclined to believe such a state would have a huge murder rate. Strangely, the opposite is true - we're the safest state in the US (http://allproudamericans.com/The-10-Safest-States-in-America-2015.html). Sure we have some crime, but not much that reaches the level of 'violent crime'; even the criminals here are generally intelligent enough not to risk their lives.
For the 225 years my state has been in the Union, we've never required a permit to carry concealed. Any resident, 16 and older, can exercise that right. Listening to the Chuckie Schumers, Mikey Bloombergs and others, one would be inclined to believe such a state would have a huge murder rate. Strangely, the opposite is true - we're the safest state in the US (http://allproudamericans.com/The-10-Safest-States-in-America-2015.html). Sure we have some crime, but not much that reaches the level of 'violent crime'; even the criminals here are generally intelligent enough not to risk their lives.
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My thoughts are that your reference article doesn't apply to your argument. The U.S. Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands does not fall under the U.S. Constitution.
The definition of "Commonwealth" according to current U.S. State Department policy (as codified in the department's Foreign Affairs Manual) reads: "The term 'Commonwealth' does not describe or provide for any specific political status or relationship. It has, for example, been applied to both states and territories. When used in connection with areas under U.S. sovereignty that are not states, the term broadly describes an area that is self-governing under a constitution of its adoption and whose right of self-government will not be unilaterally withdrawn by Congress.
U.S. insular areas are not afforded direct representation in the federal legislature, either in the Senate or in the House of Representatives.
They have the right to pass their own laws.
Bottom Line: Nice story to try and make your point, but doesn't pass the sniff test!
The definition of "Commonwealth" according to current U.S. State Department policy (as codified in the department's Foreign Affairs Manual) reads: "The term 'Commonwealth' does not describe or provide for any specific political status or relationship. It has, for example, been applied to both states and territories. When used in connection with areas under U.S. sovereignty that are not states, the term broadly describes an area that is self-governing under a constitution of its adoption and whose right of self-government will not be unilaterally withdrawn by Congress.
U.S. insular areas are not afforded direct representation in the federal legislature, either in the Senate or in the House of Representatives.
They have the right to pass their own laws.
Bottom Line: Nice story to try and make your point, but doesn't pass the sniff test!
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Col (Join to see)
good point. what if this was applied in states? You have to register for guns right now. what if we applied that to people who wanted to practice religion? what about journalists?
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
So to support that argument I would point you to Seattle and Cook County, Ill (Chicago). Both have implanted $25 fees for guns. but that is local gov't. The 21st Amendment repealed Prohibition effectively recognizing the right of Americans to consume alcohol but we charge exorbitant fees to those who serve alcohol, and tax the hell out of the product.
I don't think the comparison between gun owners and religious practitioners/journalists is valid, but I do not think that a $1000 excise fee is appropriate.
I don't think the comparison between gun owners and religious practitioners/journalists is valid, but I do not think that a $1000 excise fee is appropriate.
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Col (Join to see)
The 21st Amendment repealed the Prohibition but didn't explicitly make alcohol as basic right but I get your point. At what point is exercising a fee, tax, regulation, etc become an infringement on a right? If opponents of the amendment have an issue ,they need to change the constitution. Legal maneuvering like this becomes case law that will be cited to accomplish other infringements (the slippy slope argument) but I guess that is status quo in politics.
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