Posted on Apr 13, 2014
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We all know that the Army's Height/Weight system has it flaws, and something I believe that could fix part of it would be making it invalid if the PT score is high enough.  My personal opinion is that if you can achieve a 270 with a 90 in each event you shouldn't have to worry if you have too small of a neck for your waistline.  I'm interested to see how others feel about this.
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SFC(P) Senior Instructor
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A person's weight can vary even during the course of a day.

If you can pass the APFT, aren't you by definition fit?

There was a story that the tape measurement can overestimate a person's fat content by 60%.
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SSG Robert Burns
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What do you mean by invalid?
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SPC Christopher Seitler
SPC Christopher Seitler
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I think the correct term the original poster was looking for is: "disregarded"
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The Corps use to allow their Marines who scored a first class PFT be allowed to have a maximum 21% body fat for those overweight.  They did away with this around 2009 and now regardless if you score high or not on your PFT and CFT, if you are overweight, you better make that 18% body fat (varies by age).  I really don't care, that just means you need to be in better shape and condition since the leeway is gone. 
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SFC Walter Mack
SFC Walter Mack
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When I was a Marine in the 90s, the Commander had full say in this matter. If you looked fat, you were fat. If you didn't, then no measurement was necessary. We still did H/W, but body fat never occurred to me then. Also, there was no playing games with a big neck or other anatomical advantage. If you looked fat, you better fix it.
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CSM Aircraft Maintenance Senior Sergeant
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Should an APFT be invalid if the HT/WT data is good?


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SSG Robert Burns
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I said this a while back.  
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CPT FAO - Southeast Asia
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Height/Weight should stay... I do not agree that the "current system" should be maintained though.
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Normally, if you score that high, you are doing something right in the physical fitness category. The problem is that the tape test is such an inaccurate measurement system. Unfortunately it is probably the cheapest and easiest method of measuring body mass index. But one could easily argue if you can be that disciplined to get such a high score, then why can't you apply the same to your weight loss?
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