Should Height/Weight be Disregarded if the PT Score is High Enough?

I was one of those soldiers, who can pass with a high PT score. Then was always borderline on my height/weight and tape.i preferred to be a little bigger becuase when I was a skinnier soldier. I couldn't keep up with the daily work load as much and was even more tired. Having a little more weight I had even more energy. The problem with this is alot of soldiers weren't able to take the responsibility of doing extra PT at the end of day. Then also other tasks the fell on the chain of command as fatty cakes. Wouldnt take responsibility for their actions. My buddy Chris as a aviation soldier was a fatty cake and because of that did extra PT. Went to Ranger school and passed becuase he took responsiblity for what the Army asked of him.

I learned it's easier to boot someone for PT failure than busting height and weight. Logic being if you cant passed the PT your likely a far body anyways.

As a female with hips and big tits, I can confirm that the weigh and tape can be quite ridiculous. My boobs weighed enough that I have to be taped and my hips are wide enough that I almost didn't pass tape dispite having almost an 8pack and being relatively thin for having such a muscular body. Also my highest pt score was a 254. I'll admit my run was slow because I have a tear on my right mcl.

I know in the Air Force if that happens you get a BMI done I know people who intally failed but after the BMI got a perfect score

Maybe the ratios need to be adjusted. But the test is two part either one may be failed. If your h to w ratio is good should that make a failing score on pt test be ok?

Go back to the % body fat measurement. It is a much more meaningful test. I always ran up against the chart. But even at 5# over max I ran 14-15% body fat. I was 9# unde Max when I ran my last marathon and electronically checked under 11%. The whole BMI thing is a scam. Oh and I had the high score adj in DivHQ at 51 - it was a max & about 280 on the 20 year old scale

The ht\wt system is terrible. I'm 6'7" and have been taped my entire career. At 280lbs I'm muscular and have always passed tape, but its ridiculous I even get taped.

Another thing is that the tape test is a primitive and outdated means of measuring body fat. You can get more accurate measurements with skinfold calipers, or, if our branches were to spend a bit more money short-term, there's some pretty neat tech out there that we could put in medical stations, which can measure not only body fat percentage accurately, but also things like hydration levels and muscle mass/bone density. Of course, I don't see us having those for another fifty years, knowing the Marine Corps.

The Marine Corps just implemented a revision to our height/weight policy along with revamped scoring requirements for our PFT/CFT. Basically, if you get 285 or higher out of 300 on BOTH the PFT and CFT, then you are exempt from taping if you are overweight. The catch is that it is also much harder to get a high score for the CFT, and we have to do more reps on the pullup/crunches portions of our PFT. Just got a 276 on the CFT yesterday when with the previous standard I would have had a 299. So I say, if you are physically fit enough, screw having to get taped because ultimitely, we need fit people out there on the battlefield; not someone who looks pretty but can barely run 3 miles in less than 28 minutes.

I think the same standards that are applied to "critical" career fields to maintain manning (ex: medical) should be applicable to all service members. (If you have been to the clinic you can clearly see the standards are overlooked.) Seriously... I retired in 2015, I am 4'10 have never weighed over 80 lbs and considered "underweight". I never shirked my duties and always passed the PT Test. I also didn't really adhere to a fitness plan until I had no choice as a Basic Training Instructor (MTI). So, I get sent to the clinic for being grossly underweight and I score excellent on my PT. I got shamed even when I met the requirements. If you pass the actual test you have achieved the goal. Stop shaming those who meet/exceed the standard. Just saying...