Posted on Jan 27, 2024
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A friend just shared that the service branch are expected to allow those without HS Diplomas or GEDs into military service. How wise is this?
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2024/01/26/navy-to-allow-those-without-high-school-diploma-or-ged-to-enlist/#
https://www.al.com/news/2022/06/army-drops-requirement-that-recruits-have-high-school-diplomas.html
So, we are welcoming people who are not committed to educating themselves so that our military is the most well educated and prepared to preserve, protect and defend this nation against all enemies?
In today's hyper-modern warfare space are the services branches willing to lower standards, just to meet recruiting goals, or should overall US policy change so that military service is part of the pride of national identity.
If some cannot read and comprehend well enough what they read to take the ASVAB in the first place what will this mean?
> US Army ASVAB - https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab/asvab-and-army-jobs.html#
> US Marines ASVAB - https://www.marines.com/become-a-marine/requirements/general.html#
> US Navy ASVAB - https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab-and-navy-mos-jobs.html#
> US Coast Guard ASVAB - https://www.operationmilitarykids.org/asvab-scores-for-coast-guard-jobs/
> US Air Force ASVAB - https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab/asvab-and-air-force-jobs.html
> US Space Force ASVAB - https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/join-the-space-force#
While a number of the career paths in each of the service branches that are more technical will require higher ASVABS, what does this mean on other fronts such as fitness, wellness, and especially mental health?
Please share your opinions.
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2024/01/26/navy-to-allow-those-without-high-school-diploma-or-ged-to-enlist/#
https://www.al.com/news/2022/06/army-drops-requirement-that-recruits-have-high-school-diplomas.html
So, we are welcoming people who are not committed to educating themselves so that our military is the most well educated and prepared to preserve, protect and defend this nation against all enemies?
In today's hyper-modern warfare space are the services branches willing to lower standards, just to meet recruiting goals, or should overall US policy change so that military service is part of the pride of national identity.
If some cannot read and comprehend well enough what they read to take the ASVAB in the first place what will this mean?
> US Army ASVAB - https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab/asvab-and-army-jobs.html#
> US Marines ASVAB - https://www.marines.com/become-a-marine/requirements/general.html#
> US Navy ASVAB - https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab-and-navy-mos-jobs.html#
> US Coast Guard ASVAB - https://www.operationmilitarykids.org/asvab-scores-for-coast-guard-jobs/
> US Air Force ASVAB - https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab/asvab-and-air-force-jobs.html
> US Space Force ASVAB - https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/join-the-space-force#
While a number of the career paths in each of the service branches that are more technical will require higher ASVABS, what does this mean on other fronts such as fitness, wellness, and especially mental health?
Please share your opinions.
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When I joined in 1980, I was a high school dropout, as were about 20% of my fellow recruits. Within 6 months, I had my GED. By the time I made sergeant, I was working on my Associates Degree. I also held a top secret (SCI) security clearance. Guess what... the security of the nation never suffered on my account.
Don't sell dropouts short. We have a lot to offer.
BTW - my GT score on the ASVAB was 110, and my DLAB score was 121.
Don't sell dropouts short. We have a lot to offer.
BTW - my GT score on the ASVAB was 110, and my DLAB score was 121.
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Require a HS diploma to risk your life for your country? Some jobs, maybe most jobs yes, but not all jobs. I liked the comment I read suggesting a HS Diploma equivalency after enlistment be required to progress past say E-4.
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CPO Nate S.
Sir,
I caught that, but by the time I went back to correct a 1st vote had been provided that locked it in. That is what happens when the mind move sat light speed when it should be on impulse drive or manual override (think Star Trek reference).
No excuse, other than I need to slow down from time to time. Thanks for the sharp eye........
I caught that, but by the time I went back to correct a 1st vote had been provided that locked it in. That is what happens when the mind move sat light speed when it should be on impulse drive or manual override (think Star Trek reference).
No excuse, other than I need to slow down from time to time. Thanks for the sharp eye........
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I entered the Navy in 1986. The Navy allowed persons to enter without a high school diploma or GED at that time. The catch was you didn't leave boot until you completed your GED. This was an excellent program then and should be reinstated. It provided yet another quality training experience for sailors, and allowed for them to use their VA education program for trade school or college upon honorably discharging.
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I don't know if it is a danger to National security but having a minimum standard isn't a bad thing. Getting a diploma or GED takes time but isn't an impossible task that should be considered an unrealistic goal or requirement. Many people on here complain about standards being dropped to be more inclusive and that is what this seems like to me.
Now if we want to address recruiting hurdles that is a different discussion but of all the issues we have I don't think it is rooted in GED/Diploma requirements being too tough to negotiate. I think public perception from the current administration is that not only when you have issues getting support asa Veteran but you will be left in the wind while on Active Duty as well. Pay disparities, food stamps, poor tactical decisions and beyond. All of this stuff is on social media in real time and the kids today see that and nope out figuring they will go elsewhere
Now if we want to address recruiting hurdles that is a different discussion but of all the issues we have I don't think it is rooted in GED/Diploma requirements being too tough to negotiate. I think public perception from the current administration is that not only when you have issues getting support asa Veteran but you will be left in the wind while on Active Duty as well. Pay disparities, food stamps, poor tactical decisions and beyond. All of this stuff is on social media in real time and the kids today see that and nope out figuring they will go elsewhere
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What a question! Todays students are not held to the same standards as previous generations and that has to change. This change continues to require a HS Diploma or GED as it should be. These current generations, with their chrome books and other items, think everything is an easy "click." Our American Military needs to maintain high standards because our civilian counterparts do not. Do not lower the standards.
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I would be more interested to why they do not have a diploma or GED than whether they have one. I turned 17 my junior year and might have considered dropping out to go active. If that person can pass the ASVAB to standards fine let them join however if they do not have those credentials because they were kicked out of HS, that is a different story. Many of our WWII generation did not finish HS because the family needed them working and that is another worthy candidate. Again more interested in the why not than the piece of paper.
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