Posted on Jan 30, 2022
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I was hoping to reclass to 25D from 11B after my time on the trail. I believe I meet all qualifications except one, back 2014 I received an AR15 for the consumption of oxycodone. It was an experimental use and I suffered the consequence, although I did keep my secret clearance and even was able to resubmit and I'm not sure I will get the TS SCI mainly due to the fact that I simply don't really remember how the drug incident fully happened. On the previous interview I think I might have not told the actual story. I don't want to do another interview and have 3 different stories and get denied based on inaccurate information. Any advice is appreciated.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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If you can't qualify for a TS with SCI, you're not reclassing. I don't know how you kept a Secret but now they're extremely restrictive on who gets a TS/SCI. They (CAF) did an audit and anyone who had a TS but didn't require it per MOS or MTOE, they had it removed or couldn't get a PR done if due for PR. It's very unlikely you're getting a TS/SCI but if you did go through, and you give conflicting info about the situation, then yeah the investigator may deny adjudication.
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Makes sense
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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If you can't obtain a TS then you aren't eligible for 25D
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MSG Pedro Soto
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DS Smith,
Honesty goes a long way, by telling the true you may be able to get thru the system, they look at it as you made a mistake bit at least you are owning that you messed up. It doesn't hurt to let them know that what you did was stupid and reassure them that it won't happen again and that you want to make it right. Good Luck.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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That's not how it works with clearances. They do take a "whole person" concept. But with something like what he mentioned, unlikely especially when they're restricting the amount of TS clearances issued. Those cost money...
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I've seen some messed up things get through an TS/SCI investigation because the person owned up to the entire thing. All I can guess is that the investigator and adjudicating authority really must have determined that there was no possibility of blackmail, extortion, or embarrassment to the guy. IOW, no security risk.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
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CW5 (Join to see) - Again they take a whole person concept. If you are forthcoming on the SF86 and the investigation they look at the whole person.

For example, if someone said they smoked marijuana once in college and that was it and never did it again, they'll get a TS. If you put down that you did cocaine 50 times, probably not getting it. (Yes I saw someone who was trying to get a Secret put down honestly that in college they did cocaine like multiple times and they had their interim denied and their adjudication denied).

However, they did just do an audit of all TS clearances and if people had one that don't need it anymore, they lost it. If people don't have a valid justification for the need of a TS (MOS or MTOE position) they're not getting one.
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