Should not being ABN, AASLT, etc qualified prevent you from going to promotion board or NCOES?

<p>I was reading through all responses below and got lost.&nbsp; So I will just answer what I see is your current thread/question.&nbsp; Some posts are required to fill a certain number of seats in certain courses.&nbsp; Not sure if it is still this way but I remember the 101st used to strive for 80% of the division to be AASLT qualified.&nbsp; When I was a young Soldier in the 101st, I signed in to reception and three days later was starting zero day at the Sabalauski AASLT course.&nbsp; I was told if I did not graduate I would not leave the reception BN.&nbsp; My BN CSM would not allow any "Green Tab" leader who was not an AASLT&nbsp;graduate.&nbsp; Looking back now I realize those were just motivation techniques.&nbsp; There's no way the reception BN could have held me there if I failed to complete the course.&nbsp; HRC slotted me to a whole in the MTOE of a unit.&nbsp; I remember a few senior leaders who did not have the coveted ASSLT badge and still served in their assigned positions.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I think what you are hearing about are motivation techniques from a senior leader.&nbsp; As for not allowing NCOES attendance, if this is truly happening,&nbsp;that senior leader will not be in position very long.&nbsp; The US Army senior leadership is pushing hard to get our NCOES courses back on line.&nbsp; Deployed Soldiers are being sent home to attend.&nbsp; Now, if a Soldier has not completed the appropriate SSD and NCOES they WILL not be eligible for promotion to the next higher rank.&nbsp; I find it hard to believe that any senior leader in our Army today would be able to demand such a standard.&nbsp; </p>

If in an Airborne unit your trooper asks for guidance about an Airborne operation or how to accomplish the tasks set forth to him within the operation, I ask how can you be an effective leader with no experience? I understand Resilience Training. Understanding your troopers and being there for them, But how can you effectively lead your troops out the door if you are unwilling to receive the same training?&nbsp;

Having only read your revised question, I'll give a qualified yes.&nbsp; It would be reasonable given at least three factors.&nbsp; The obvious ones being:&nbsp; Mission, METL, and duty MOS.&nbsp; Another consideration would be the availability of these courses to the candidate.&nbsp; That is, if one were available, and it supported the units METL, yet the candidate declined the course, he's probably showing poor leadership.&nbsp; But if such a course weren't available, that would be another consideration.<br>

There is at any given time at 101st ABN DIV 1000s of soldiers assigned and at home however the air assault school only graduates less than a 1000per year military wide so from that perspective I would say NO....&nbsp; Going to a specialty school unrelated to your MOS but assigned to your installation should not be a requirement for board or promotion precedings it would be like syaing if you havent been deployed to a combat zone then should you be considered for promotion or if you dont have a associates degree or above you shoudl be looked over for a promotion slot....&nbsp; NO ABN, AASLT, RANGER, PATHFINDER&nbsp;all schools that ARE REQ'D for specific Combat CMF's but not everyone can be eligible for a slot.&nbsp; I went twice to the Sabluski school and failed the Cargo bag inspection so i sucked at it....&nbsp; So just because the school is on your nstallation and your not qualified should not hinder your ability to board up to seek promotion within the ranks.&nbsp; I have known many graduates for AASLTwho less than a year later could not tell you how to properly give Aviation signals to a pilot from the ground or rig a apparatus properly; for most but not all the school badges earned are just that another badge they don't use it for capability potential of their unit or themselves.&nbsp; 75% of Campbell Units are CSS (COMBAT SERVICE SUPPORT) but it is one of the largest installations in the Army and I encourage you to at least try to do the schools before giving up so quickly if that is the case for you.&nbsp; To caveat to CW2 Evans blog if a middle or senior ranking NCO is unable to attend because of a physical profile should that hinder their career automatically for not being qualified&gt;&gt;&gt;???

<p>I think what you "heard" may be an exaggeration.&nbsp; Just because you go to a course doesnt mean you will graduate.&nbsp; Especially Ranger school.&nbsp; I've been in the infantry and have never heard of this.&nbsp; No CSM is going to simply make everyone go to Ranger school.&nbsp; They only send those who they think have a chance of passing.&nbsp; And most of them come back broke.</p><p>So lets say the soldier goes to whatever school and doesnt pass; so he'll never be promoted?&nbsp; I dont think so.</p>

In you are in an Airborne unit, then yes, there would be valid reason for requesting the SM earn his/her airborne wings prior to being selected for promotion. &nbsp;As long as the reasoning why the SM is not ready to be promoted is annotated in counseling, shouldn't be a problem.

I don't believe they should do that but not the first time I have heard of something like that

If anyone is unsure of to find out how to progress their own careers a stepping block would be to look at ALM 2015 and the ARMY PROFESSION and ALM 2020....&nbsp; Being informed on th efuture vision of what the ARMY wants versus what your direct leadership desires may play a part in&nbsp;all of our future existences while serving.

Some units 'STRONGLY' advise soldiers to attend certain courses but isnt a requirement unless you are in unique units such as USASOC &amp; JSOC where being airborne is pretty much a given based off the nature of operations. As far as promotions and things of that nature, its biased. What if I was a 'leg' / NAP in the 82nd and couldnt go to airborne school because of an injury (non combat MOS)? So you mean to tell me that because of my injuries I will be held back from career progression because I cant go to jump school?

Unless you are talking specifically about 75th. I have never seen a SGT non "tabbed" 11B/C in 75th. So is this the special operations capable unit you are speaking of?