Posted on Feb 19, 2014
Should Officers be allowed to use first names and have hands in pockets around Enlisted Soldiers?
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No way, if a enlist did it they would be worry. Why should a office do it.
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Just another case of young entitled officers who think they are above the rules and regulations
I personally would correct the youngster
Thank god I am retired
I personally would correct the youngster
Thank god I am retired
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Hands in pocket it not alowwed unless retrieving something from pocket i have in the past asked or informed a officer and he apologized along with the first name is for off duty not on duty but no one is perfect all the time just remember to us tacked
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Found out the hard way not to yell out HEY LT. Our armor unit was tight, xo called me Greg or 'what ya do this time'. Was his driver. In uniform it was rank, sir or asshole. But when we went skiing it was 85% of the time with his wife, she told me to call by his first name. Think I may of called him by name a few times. Tried not to put my hands in my pockets but when agitated I also use my hands to speak. And sometimes my hands are cold
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I was in an Army Field Artillery Unit and we used to call our front packets "Air Force Gloves" and made examples out of anyone foolish enough to place their hands in their pockets. Individuals were pointed out and mocked, made fun of and chastised. We used to say that person missed his wife or girlfriend and was therefore entertaining himself through his pockets. Now a days that could include your buddy, or a friend from college that maybe decided he wanted to be your girlfriend instead of your pal. I believe when you see a fella with his hands in his pockets a good swift kick to his crotch is in order. Is that strong enough language that most folks will understand. My first name for most of my career was Sergeant. You called me by my given name and I would probably ignore you. As far as I am concerned any break down in courtesy or respect is a break down in discipline. It leads to familiarity and possible favors asked for or expected. It doesn't due the Military Service any good and therefore shouldn't be allowed!
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Hands in pockets? No! Use first names? Under special circumstances, maybe. Normally? No! These actions do not represent good military bearing.
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I don't think it's appropriate especially hands in pockets but certain units from experience have tight relationship and use first names especially special operations
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The question is not if they should be " allowed " .....OF COURSE NOT.... they should lead by example .....the question is what do you do about it when it happens..... I feel it is the senior NCO's job to quietly privately "suggest" the officer stop what he knows is not proper behavior.
A good officer will take that constructive informal counseling to heart.... if he does not....the next step is to seek support from the chain of command..... NO QUESTION this is risky and can cause problems..... I had an A-Team leader that insisted on "micro-managing".....I told him if the troops need guidance.....he should use me..... that is MY JOB..... well....he decided he did not like my leadership style ...he wanted to be the team sergeant..... and started grooming me for relief of my command.... finally the CO told me to find a new job.....he had lots of team sergeants but not that many team leaders..... four months after I was re-assigned.... I met the CO.... he confided in me " I got rid of the wrong SOB".... I just smiled.....The captain was re-assigned to Fort Benning and became the Special Forces instructor at the Infantry School..... and was fired from that job......YOU CAN NOT FIX STUPID
A good officer will take that constructive informal counseling to heart.... if he does not....the next step is to seek support from the chain of command..... NO QUESTION this is risky and can cause problems..... I had an A-Team leader that insisted on "micro-managing".....I told him if the troops need guidance.....he should use me..... that is MY JOB..... well....he decided he did not like my leadership style ...he wanted to be the team sergeant..... and started grooming me for relief of my command.... finally the CO told me to find a new job.....he had lots of team sergeants but not that many team leaders..... four months after I was re-assigned.... I met the CO.... he confided in me " I got rid of the wrong SOB".... I just smiled.....The captain was re-assigned to Fort Benning and became the Special Forces instructor at the Infantry School..... and was fired from that job......YOU CAN NOT FIX STUPID
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