Posted on Nov 20, 2019
Should President Trump provide credibility back to UCMJ by charging to start with: Admiral Green, Adm Gilday, Secretary Spencer?
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Keep “I hate Trump” discussion off of this site. There are an endless number of political forums where this is appropriate. This is not one of them.
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Sorry, nice try. I guess I should have never listened to Bill Clinton or Barrack Obama when they were Commanders in Chief....one was a draft dodger and the other was a liberal moron who hated the military. That's the chance you take with a military that's run by civilians. As for the Sr Chief who this article is about, are you aware that the Lawyer POGs spied on his lawyers by hacking their computers? Guess not. Did you even read to the trial testimony? Doubtful....if you did, you would have read that it was the team medic that stated in the trial that he was the one who was responsible for that 17 yr old terrorist dying.
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This case of the SEAL was more than a simple cut and dried issue. For me if the process was done according to procedure then no further action should be taken.
But I do believe that both active and retired flag rank officers need to shut their pie holes if they have a disagreement with the CinC or for that matter those officers who currently lead our military. Undermining the nations leadership should only occur within politics and flag ranking officers should either steer clear of that arena or surrender their retirement benefits. As we all know responsibility and accountability comes with rank and scrambled eggs on your cover only means those two things expand in importance.
But I do believe that both active and retired flag rank officers need to shut their pie holes if they have a disagreement with the CinC or for that matter those officers who currently lead our military. Undermining the nations leadership should only occur within politics and flag ranking officers should either steer clear of that arena or surrender their retirement benefits. As we all know responsibility and accountability comes with rank and scrambled eggs on your cover only means those two things expand in importance.
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Ok my Comrades, let's take this from the top, the true top. Now lets start with the Idiot-n-Chief sitting in the W/H. In my opinion, anyone that ducks out on serving in the Military when called upon, due to, so-called bone spurs, should not be playing the checkers game of "Your Fired", after UCMJ Board Members have spoken. It appears the institution and framework of the UCMJ Code as we once knew has been pushed into the path of erosion. The rule of law within the Military no matter what Branch or Rank should hold fast. If you did an awful act discrediting yourself and all the Military Forces, hold yourself accountable and take your just dues and move on....
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Capt Edward Egan
That conditional "IF" ("If you did an awful act") makes a big difference. An admin POG should know that. I suggest that you look at the facts, not just the commie propaganda regarding both the President and Chief Gallagher.
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SGT Lenise Hamilton
it sounds like someone is salty, due to, another opinion other than their own. Drive on CPT. with your opinion, there's more soup in the pot, other than yourself. That's what makes opinions so great, to include your's as well. "Please Get Over Yourself", and move onward.... Peace!
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I think making sure that Generals and CSM are charged the same as Privates for the same crimes would be a good start. Actually hitting them even harder would be best.
Private snuffy charged with sexual misconduct? Jail.
General at FT Bragg charged the same? reduction in rank gets to keep 06 retirement.
Actually had a SGM tell me the reason why they do this is because the high rankers have given more.
I would say, they should know even better but I ha e digress from the original post...
Sorry
But the President charging officers for doing their job off of the data they were given by a corrupt prosecution?
Not their fault UCMJ tied their hands and the secretary was backing his people.
Nothing wrong here
Private snuffy charged with sexual misconduct? Jail.
General at FT Bragg charged the same? reduction in rank gets to keep 06 retirement.
Actually had a SGM tell me the reason why they do this is because the high rankers have given more.
I would say, they should know even better but I ha e digress from the original post...
Sorry
But the President charging officers for doing their job off of the data they were given by a corrupt prosecution?
Not their fault UCMJ tied their hands and the secretary was backing his people.
Nothing wrong here
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The president does NOT have the right to say who gets court-martialed and who does not. He can intervene after the fact, but he can not initiate action, He can, however, request a flag officer to resign.
The real issue here is that the president needs to stop micro managing everything.
I hope the next time Eddie Gallagher inserts into a hostile zone, he gets fucking fragged. That will fix everything.
The real issue here is that the president needs to stop micro managing everything.
I hope the next time Eddie Gallagher inserts into a hostile zone, he gets fucking fragged. That will fix everything.
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If the UCMJ’s credibility is lost then look at the active duty Commanders.
When I was Military Police if we stopped a vehicle for DUI and discovered the driver as an officer we were required to stop all test and turn the individual over to the Command Duty Officer, at the Officer Club behavior that would land a enlisted person in the brig was often ignored.
I always thought the U=uniform part meant it applies to all equally, silly me.
When I was Military Police if we stopped a vehicle for DUI and discovered the driver as an officer we were required to stop all test and turn the individual over to the Command Duty Officer, at the Officer Club behavior that would land a enlisted person in the brig was often ignored.
I always thought the U=uniform part meant it applies to all equally, silly me.
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You Trump haters are a disgrace to the uniform!
1. He’s commander in Chief! Period! Live with it!
2. He’s not a draft dodger! Seeking legal mean to defer or avoid military service isn’t draft dodging. Running to Canada or Mexico or England (Bill Clinton), is draft dodging.
3. Chief Gallagher’s crime did not rise to level to warrant taking his trident. He was imprisoned for months in solitary confinement with no visits or other privileges. American corrections association (ACA) which military brigs are a member of should know that this is not right or legal. ACA regs were thrown out the window in his case. Which conditions he was in prison and her were worse than an animal shelter. Not only should he get to keep is Trident, he should sue and get monetary compensation. I have been involved in the jail and incarceration business for 11 years and we don’t treat murderers and rapists like they treated chief Gallagher.
1. He’s commander in Chief! Period! Live with it!
2. He’s not a draft dodger! Seeking legal mean to defer or avoid military service isn’t draft dodging. Running to Canada or Mexico or England (Bill Clinton), is draft dodging.
3. Chief Gallagher’s crime did not rise to level to warrant taking his trident. He was imprisoned for months in solitary confinement with no visits or other privileges. American corrections association (ACA) which military brigs are a member of should know that this is not right or legal. ACA regs were thrown out the window in his case. Which conditions he was in prison and her were worse than an animal shelter. Not only should he get to keep is Trident, he should sue and get monetary compensation. I have been involved in the jail and incarceration business for 11 years and we don’t treat murderers and rapists like they treated chief Gallagher.
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