Posted on Sep 28, 2015
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To fill everyone in: Currently in army basic training you have 3 APFT's during each phase (Red, White, Blue) however you only need to successfully complete the final test with a score of 50 in each event to pass basic training. Do you believe that since the army is "downsizing" it should be if you fail you get chaptered or do you believe the army should continue to allow you to retake this PT test. Knowing if you fail it 3 more times you go to the Fitness Training Unit in order to pt everyday all day in order to get your scores where you can pass and move on to AIT.
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CPT Ahmed Faried
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Seeing as the current recruiting pool live a more sedentary lifestyle your criteria would leave a lot of potential recruits being chaptered out. I think the current system is fine.
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LCDR Deputy Department Head
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I've always had mixed feelings about this. One one hand I feel that you should pass it the first time. On the other hand I know a lot of very good soldiers and sailors who failed the first time and haven't had any PT issues once in the fleet (or whatever you call the "real" Army).

Part of basic training is taking people way outside of standards and bringing them in. Some will be closer to start with. So with that in mind I support keeping the multiple attempts part there.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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I suspect there is some Cost Benefit Analysis involved. The cost involved in out-processing a Recruit versus allowing him to take several attempts to make it through the system. That drives pretty much everything.
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