Posted on Oct 27, 2013
Should the Air Force bring back Warrant Officers?
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First some background, the U.S. Air Force stopped producing Warrant Officers approximately four decades ago; in light of upcoming force structure changes, do you think that it is realistic to them back? If so, what are some of the associated pros and cons to consider? Has the Air Force suffered, is it better off... or does it even matter? The idea here is to begin an inter-service discussion on the merits of Warrant Officers in the AF, and in light of reducing budgets and change throughout the ranks, do we need to consider bringing them back? There's no right or wrong answers here, just an informed discussion on possibilities and precedents. I look forward to hearing your thoughts, so pull up a keyboard and let's get this thing started, thanks for all that you do, and... see you all in the discussion threads!
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There are a ton of ways the government could save money on different expenditures. Combine things in military like for pilots. Air Force and Navy. Combine both as one. Don't know if AF pilots have done any deck off or on using the sled or system used now but it would be good for them if they don't. Same for Army and AF on the Military Police schools (like they currently have the k9 Corps situated). All sorts of training and communication combined so all knows the same information and S.O.P.s are
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Navy got rid of them once. It wasn't long before they brought them back. They found there wasn't enough authority in an E-9 and the O-3 was to much and anything in between too young.
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Current enlisted UAV pilots would be a great fit for Warrant officer ranks
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Lets be honest, a former senior NCO who becomes a Warrant officer, has more knowledge, and will better service the Air Force than a lieutenant, captain, or major. It can be considered a cost cutting method, or a way to more efficiently service our air fleet. It takes 200 men to service one B-2 bomber. You can have a warrant in charge of those 200 men, with senior NCO's overseeing the different parts of aircraft servicing.
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Warrent Officers to do what other than drone pilots there's no positions for warrents, it's gotten to the point that Snco's have to have a master degree how much more do you have to be qualified to run a shop. My last 8 years at Eglin had a Captain in charge of the engine shop and major was in charge of plains and scheduling and that was in 2004 I'm sure it's wrose now. Just let your NCO's do there job. If you want warrants then open up job fields that that they can do. Drone and Helocopter pilots some smaller transport aircraft. The Air Force was created by Officers for Officers and with few exceptions the entire enlisted force function is to support them. I dought they would alow anything to bridge the gap between enlisted and officers.
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The USAF is bleeding skilled technicians in several fields and one of the primary reasons they are leaving is that they don't want the headaches of leadership and being supervisors. There is no career path for anyone to be technicians in the USAF. If we had WOs, who were career long technicians (not staff level managers and advisors) we could entice more highly skilled people to stay and capitalize on their skills and the experience that they will accumulate.
We need to stop putting CGOs in technically focused positions because not only are they not really fully trained for it, but it is time that they spend not learning and doing the leading and managing that we expect from them. That gives us inexperienced FGOs and Commanders and that gives us more serious problems to deal with.
We need to stop putting CGOs in technically focused positions because not only are they not really fully trained for it, but it is time that they spend not learning and doing the leading and managing that we expect from them. That gives us inexperienced FGOs and Commanders and that gives us more serious problems to deal with.
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Yes, all services has a need for Warrant Officers. These folks have special skills, abilities and leadership ability that is perhaps beyond an NCO's paygrade while they don't really want to be a commissioned officer. I have known a few men while in Korea that went from E7 to CWO2 and I think they really deserved the additional pay and additional respect. My dad used to call them "the bastards of the service" and he and I had many arguments over the statement.
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CWO2 Richard Rose
Chief Warrant Officers are as much a commissioned officer as any. I can't speak for the other services, but in my day a CWO could be assigned to billets up to O-5. I relieved a USMC Captain and an LDO LT O-3 at the same time. I was the subject matter expert. I didn't plant my butt behind a desk and stay there. I made it my mission to learn every piece of equipment and system under my charge. I served with some outstanding E-8s and E-9s. But.... I also served with more E-9s that did next to nothing except walk around like, "look at me, I'm a Master Chief."
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Col (Join to see) I think the RPA program is ripe for this rank. They are pulling enlisted in to fly surveillance drones, and pulling officers from jet slots to fly attack drones. You could please many by bringing back the WO ranks & slotting them in the RPA programs (both surveillance & attack).
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They should Never have gotten rid of them But thats the folks in the Nose Bleed sections are not always as smart as they think they are...
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