Posted on Jan 28, 2014
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When I joined the Army we Specialist 4-6 (SP7 had just been discontinued). It provided those Soldiers who had technical expertise and experience the opportunity to progress and earn more pay. However they typically were not "green tab" leaders and were subordinate in rank to a "sergeant" of the same pay grade (SSG & SP6). I've often thought over the years that the Army deleted a program that brought added value to the organization by discontinuing these ranks, as not all Soldiers are not going to be good leaders but should have the opportunity to progress based on their occupational expertise.

Should the Army bring these ranks back?
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SPC Paul Davis
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Ok. could someone being me up to speed.on the Spc.rank debate? I must have been under my rock taking a long nap over the last 20 plus yrs. I left in 96 as Specialist( E-4). Did the DOD change rank structure with spc- corp.ranks? Thanks all
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Justin Pasters
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Yes we need to do it. Because people do more training for that special job that they need that rank and title
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SSgt Mark Paige
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No
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SPC Prentice Watkins
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Yes.
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SGT Jeff Marshall
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For sure!!!you have the chiefs & the Indians!!!
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MSG Senior Enlisted Advisor
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While there are some NCOs that earned the title of PV9 or Spec-9 through neglect of soldiers or abuse of rank, the army has far too many demands on it and not enough people do to pay people not to get the most out of them. We already have ranks for people unwilling to lead, specialists and privates.
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SSG Tym Perryman
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Yes, I was around when we had these ranks and it was much more efficient.
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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Yes, bring them back!
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SGT Infantryman
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Cheif I'm with you, put the skills test back in. On your comment about the infantry, maybe I'm a bit off base here but in many respects infantry is a technical MOS. Here is my point on that. If it weren't a technical MOS , why bother with the EIB? While all are required to be a basic infantry soldier. The is a point where we have to admit that not all would be successful as an infantry soldier. After being a retired infantry Sgt there were some that should have picked a different MOS. Todays technology requires an infantry soldier to be much more than in days past. While one very important thing cannot be taught, instincts. However each soldier may have those towards their MOS. I'LL use a cook as an outside analagy. While the manual may say this amount of time is needed for proper preparation of a particular item. A cook's instincts may be correct in changing the preparation time for a better flavor, therefore increasing morale by serving better chow. An infantryman can know that the SOP says enter a room this way. His instincts may tell him do it this way, improving the effectiveness of his team. Therefore bringing one more soldier home and improving morale.
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SGT Jay Richardson
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When I first received my sp4 I thought it was great. I was working in a field that was on the technical side, but I soon found out that I was in a no man's land. Lower ranking enlisted don't listen to you be cause you are not considered as an nci, and the nco's looked down on you because even though you were both e4, e5 , or e6 because they had hard stripes they out ranked you as a specialist. So the question is , is it good or bad I guess it just depends on what side of the hard stripes you are on.
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