Posted on Jan 28, 2014
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When I joined the Army we Specialist 4-6 (SP7 had just been discontinued). It provided those Soldiers who had technical expertise and experience the opportunity to progress and earn more pay. However they typically were not "green tab" leaders and were subordinate in rank to a "sergeant" of the same pay grade (SSG & SP6). I've often thought over the years that the Army deleted a program that brought added value to the organization by discontinuing these ranks, as not all Soldiers are not going to be good leaders but should have the opportunity to progress based on their occupational expertise.

Should the Army bring these ranks back?
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COL Chief, Observer Trainer Coach Team
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Absolutely, but in limited quantities. As a medic in Germany in 1975, we had several high-ranking Specialist positions in the specialty areas of the hospital. They all knew they worked for the NCOIC, Corporal or SFC did not matter. But you don’t want to get into the position we were in at the beginning of the Korean War. We are all specialists in some way. Specialists who can not fight need to be few in this business, if we are to keep our promise to our flag and Constitution.
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MAJ Larry Richardson
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I was a battalion commander in Germany (1977-78), and saw a lot of specialist arrive who openly told me that, if the [then] Soviets came across the border, they would joint the military depends being evacuated to France and the UK!!! Very disappointing! I've never forgottent he words drilled into me during Basic Training (1962.): All soldiers are basically Infantrymen!!! I guess that's not taught anymore.
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SPC Food Service Specialist
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Yes they should no every soldier should be in a leader position. But still Be qualified to do at the highest level
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COL William Oseles
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They should bring them back as Technical Sergeants.
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MSG Loren Tomblin
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I agree. I was so disappointed when the Army said "Up or out". It was though it was forcing soldiers to their level of incompetency. I once served with a company commander that love doing that. He was forced out by that rule. I also knew professional privates that loved their job. I also witnessed troops in the transportation MOS as truck drivers being promoted to Truck Master positions which did not cover their driving status. All they wanted to do was drive. They got out and re-enlisted at a lower rank. Convoluted logic at best to lose so much talent.
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SSG Diane R.
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I think the Army should give it serious consideration especially because of the challenges of acquiring highly competent technical people. An IT professional recruited from civilian life to fulfill a critical position is not necessarily a good leader and thus giving them a specialist rank would be ideal.

Specialist would be recognized by their grade and expertise, and nuts and bolts that hold together the technical aspects of the service. Experts in that field, but not necessarily leadership potential. For thumb the burden of command is just too high but they can make excellent technician and they may be well content with that.

In our highly complex military we need to recognize it now more than ever.
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SPC Computer/Detection Systems Repairer
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No doubt that not everybody born to be a leader or not everybody want to be a leader and be in front of high responsibility position ,so in that case nobody should be discriminated to allow to service USA as technician specialist and still working in one o many different areas that is not a leader position ,the rank of SPECIALIST must be bring back as soon as possible because the military are losing very good Technicians and they are human resources that the army money on them to their education and formation as Techs ,But this is just politics should change .
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SGT Sherrie Fanning
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Definitely not. E6 verses Sp6 ,.There would be some controversy on who's rank is a leadership rank..Same as Corporal and E4. Just more bull the Army doesn't need. Y'all have to many other fish to fry..
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that's the thing the E-6 SSG is in the leadership roll where as the E-6 SPC6 is in the working roll ... an E5 SGT would have a squad of SPC SP5 SP6 and maybe even, in rare circumstances, an SP7 ... the SP ranks were made for the knowledge the person had at their individual job the SGT SSG SFC are the leaders ... making the calls reporting to higher evaluating the team, squad, section, and platoon ... for that matter a high speed E-4 Cpl could in fact be in a leadership of the SP ranks
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SGT Sherrie Fanning
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SHOULDN'T the Leaders the shot callers also be experts also in all aspects of their MOS and be knowledgeable in their Soldiers areas if expertise.??
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LCDR Aerospace Engineering Duty, Maintenance (AMDO and AMO)
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SGT Sherrie Fanning - Ideally, yes. But practical considerations also take hold. As people rank up, they lead people in ratings/MOS's outside their own.
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SSG Ted Strachan
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Respectfully disagree. I was a SP4 in Germany when they retired the SP% and 6. There was never any doubt or confusion as to who was in charge and who was the technical specialists. The hard-stripers led and managed, and the soecialists performed the technical work. NO conflict anywhere that I saw.
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SSG Joe Vendetti
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I say yes, like you said all men do not make good leaders.
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SP6 Thomas Stout
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I could see SP5, maybe SP6 for certain fields; Medical, Admin, Legal, supply, etc... Mostly Non Combat Arms...Hard stripes in Combat Arms and E7 and above...Jmo. lowly E6
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I would definitely like to see this come back. I agree that some people excel greatly by their perfession however they lack in leadership. But I've also seen people lack in their profession but are great leaders and then you have some that have the advantage of excelling in both aspects. To promote where it needs to be would be outstanding.
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