Posted on Jan 28, 2014
Should the Army bring back the Specialist titles?
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When I joined the Army we Specialist 4-6 (SP7 had just been discontinued). It provided those Soldiers who had technical expertise and experience the opportunity to progress and earn more pay. However they typically were not "green tab" leaders and were subordinate in rank to a "sergeant" of the same pay grade (SSG & SP6). I've often thought over the years that the Army deleted a program that brought added value to the organization by discontinuing these ranks, as not all Soldiers are not going to be good leaders but should have the opportunity to progress based on their occupational expertise.
Should the Army bring these ranks back?
Should the Army bring these ranks back?
Posted 12 y ago
Responses: 708
I totally agree that the spec rank should be brought back, the Air Force does this. It allows you to keep your technical experts in their field and lets face it not every Soldier should be a leader.
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I found it a slap in the face that as a Spec 4 I could not go in to the NCO club but a ground pounder Corpral could. Specialist ranks were for the more intelligent Soldier yet we were not given the same respect as a 11B high school drop out. Under the Russian doctrine ADA was a front line MOS. We not only had to make sure the systems stayed up and running we did all the 11B work on our sites too.
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How many things do we need to tinker with in the Army? I mean, it's like we're never satisfied with the status quo and are always making some new headache. The sham shield (of which I was one) was a fine rank at E-4. At E-5 an above, if you can't lead other soldiers and coach and mentor them, then you're not worth paying the extra money to. After a time, if you can't get out from under the E-4 rank, I'm not sure having some non NCO rank is a great idea.
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What's going to happen if a career field is filled with soldiers that dont want to lead. Will some be forced to the board. Where they will have tooi take a pay cut because there is no feasible way we can pay a Spec 7 less than an E5. The pay difference is to small.
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How would they implement this? Are you seriously going to tell me a Spec 7 who is possibly only mediocre at his job could be paid more than a hungry technically and tactically proficient SGT. Get real. Thats far from fair. Also of that 35yr old Spec 7 with 4 kids and a wife decided he would like get off his lazy ass and lead would he have to take a pay cut. I don't think anyone's thought of that. I can see the pros to bringing it back. I just don't think it's compatible with today's competitive and fast moving Army.
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I think this particular thread will be a somewhat hot topic for many more years to come. Bringing back the additional Specialist ranks would benefit the present day and possible future force in many ways no matter the size. I have also seen many soldiers forced out of service due to not meeting the requirements for future retention because of promotion. The ranks could be used in the soft skilled MOS's as a definite force multiplier allowing further growth in the Combat and Combat related MOS's. For all of it to work no matter the component respect and a solid regulation would have to put out and adhered to by all. This is something that would take much getting used to and hard work to pull off. Bring them back to include a additional E-grade for the Sergeant Major of the Army.
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Fuck no, the atmy was founded with buck private, a mosquito wing a pfc a corporal a sergeant etc.
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